In my case, unfortunately, I need the precise points=to-text-height
relationship since I'm in the map labeling business. Therefore, in order
to produce quality text labeling for point, line, and area features, it is
crucial to obtain this information. That's the reason for my original
query.
Martin
On Thu, 12 Sep 2002, Jacques Paris wrote:
> The points-to-text-height formula that I proposed earlier turned out to be a
> myth in this context. The height is proportional to the point size, no doubt
> about it, but the points-to-height factor depends upon the font that it is
> used. An example: to get a 15 point text on a map at the 1:15000 scale, the
> "straight" factor would give a height of 79.625 meters i a metric projection
> map. If that height were used, one would get a 13 point text with "Arial".
> Using the technique I outlined to get the height from a specially created
> text object, the height should be 95.25 (and that produces a 15 point text).
>
> If one wanted to use "Courier New" instead, the actual height should be
> 87.3125. Using the height defined for "Arial" will produce a 16 point text.
>
> I do not know how fonts are defined; I guess that a standard height is
> provided in which all characters will fit and that this height is more or
> less filled by the glyphs. But one thing remains is that if a conversion
> factor* between theoretical height (from the map scale and the number of
> points) and the text height is not provided for each font to be used in MI,
> then everyone will have to experiment for finding the proper height to use.
>
> I assume that there may be a linear relationship and that a single "slope"
> factor would be enough (in the worst case with an added intercept) and that
> relationship should hold whatever be the point size.
>
> I have however found a disturbing behaviour of the createtext() function. I
> wanted to create a 40 pts text (as the current font was specified to be).
> Using the function and inserting the object in the table, I got a 39 pts
> text and height-width of 0.002214 - 0.01028 (in degrees). Using those values
> in the create text statement, I indeed got a 39 point text. After
> readjusting the text to 40 pts, I got a new height-width specification of
> 0.002213 - 0.012335, a decrease in height and an increase in width. And that
> got the create text statement to produce a correctly sized text.
>
> I was aware that there was some rounding problems (in TTF pts size is a
> continuous variable). I do not know what MI does when displaying text at a
> given map scale, is it using some rounding procedure in the display, in the
> reported size? I am also surprised by the role of width in the last example;
> height does not seem to be the only player as I was lead to think, width has
> also its import.
>
> It seems that this topic raises many more questions than those directly
> posed by the original query. But this looks perhaps like nitpicking for most
> of you, only those playing with precise text output are put out by it.
>
>
> Previous message slightly modified
>
> 1 point = 1/72 of an inch 5 points > 5/72 of an inch.
> At scale 1:50000, that would represent 50000 * 5 / 72 inches >~ 88.4722
> meters.
>
> The difference between y1 and y2 should thus be 88.5 meters. That between X1
> and X2 is more problematic. If it is not wide enough to house the text, the
> text will appear but the behaviour of this object will be erratic at edit
> time in particular (part will not refresh etc...). If it is too long, it may
> interfere unduly with nearby objects. But the height of the text itself will
> not be affected.
>
> Empirical solution
>
> Preparation:
> 1 - set your mapper at the 1:50000 scale and locate a point close to the
> left edge and at mid height>CX,CY
> 2 - set the current font for the mapper at 5 points of the desired font
> without the previous calculations.
>
> MapBasic window
>
> Set coordsys table <your_table>
> Dim o as object
> o=createtext(frontwindow(),CX,CY,"test de texte",0,0,0)
> dim difV as float
> dim difH as float
> difV=objectgeography(o,4)-objectgeography(o,2)
> print "Height "+str$(difV)
> difH=objectgeography(o,3)-objectgeography(o,1)
> print "Width "+str$(difH)
>
> optional
> create text into window frontwindow() "test de text" (CX,CY+difV) (CX+difH,
> CY) font ("Arial",0,0,0)
>
>
> Jacques Paris
>
>
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