Save your money and take a look at Oziexplorer for the software
(http://www.oziexplorer.com/). Aussi! Aussi! Aussi!  

I am totally amazed and awed by its ease-of-use, quality, completeness and
low cost. Down load a demo version and give a go yourself. It can reside in
either a Windows laptop or on a WinCE PDA.  Best solution is both - the PDA
in the field and the PC to manage background maps as well as store hunting
"tracks" and the like. Also you can pick up heaps of "Australian" data for
it at real bargains versus the absurd cost demands from commercial GIS
outfits.  And doubly neat is its selectable "night-vision" color scheme.  As
far as "thermal" sights and radar like remote sensing, I doubt you'll find
such a solution. (As an old outfitter from the Wyoming Bridger National
Forests, your quest for thermal mapping leaves me wondering about the
Australian "sport" of night hunting, but I am just a new immigrant....)  

As for the platform, I suggest a Compaq PocketPC 3970 with "Bluetooth" to
match a Socket Bluetooth GPS.  This design essentially looses the cables
that seem to always be in the way or disconnected at the wrong moment.  Been
at this heads-up feet-down mobile mapping for better than a decade now and
the Bluetoothed GPS is the best innovation other than sub-$500 costs for
12-channel 8m RMS SA=OFF receivers!  You can order the Socket Bluetooth GPS
directly via (http://www.socketcom.com/product/gps.asp)

As for ruggedness, dust, and hard use the issue becomes one of trade off.
The "hardened" PDA you seek like a Trimble GeoXT is $US5,000 ($8,000AUD+)
but you can float down a river with it and its GPS is darned good as are its
"all day" batteries (http://www.trimble.com/geoxt.html).  Or you could risk
the purchase of several less hardened $1200AUD iPAQs 3970s if your hunters
crush one or two...

Oh, and lastly, the Oziexploer noted above also has the ability to download
and upload background maps to most Garmin and Magellan handhelds so you
could eliminate the PDA completely.  As an alternative PDA software you
might also take a look at EzMAP from Trimble
(http://www.trimble.com/aggps_ezmap.html).  It is designed for aggies and
crop scouts using on any WinCE PDA but if you take a moment and actually
consider it you'll quickly realize that at $395US it is an incredible tool
that makes other ArcGIS and MapInfo PDA solutions over-costed and second
place IMHO.

Good hunting...
MidNight Mapper
aka neil  

-----Original Message-----
From: Simmonds, Ashley (PTB) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 9:29 AM
To: 'Mapinfo List (E-mail)'
Subject: MI-L mobile system reccomendations


hiya,
 
i want to put together a mobile mapping system for some nighttime shooters
in outback australia and want to see what ideas people here have for the
project.
 
the budget will be between $1000-$2000 Australian. (approx 20 bucks US)
 
there's no specific requirements yet, so it could be an all-in-one GPS, or a
combination of PDA/small laptop and GPS etc.
 
general requirements:
 
ease of use: 
end-user will NOT be interested in programming and fancy stuff, just knowing
where he is, and some basic plotting and editing.  eg, adding fence lines
and tracks and gates and such, or noting locations of dams and sheds or
hazards, and perhaps other things such as downed game.
 
low to medium accuracy: 
it's in the outback, they only need to know where they are to within a few
hundred metres most of the time, but there will nearly always be easy line
of sight to a whole hemisphere of satellites.
 
reliability:
this system will be on all night every night.  don't want to have to keep
changing or charging batteries, it should run off the car battery.  the
end-user will not likely suffer down-time, they would rather not use it if
it requires too much effort to maintain.
 
robustness:
this system will be in a bumpy car all the time, so it is a definite
requirement that it is NOT delicate.  any connections must be solid, capable
of taking decent knocks.
 
other ideas:
would like to interface with thermal sensing/night vision equipment.  eg,
rather than shooter having to drive around paddocks at 20km/h for 8 hours
spotlighting for game, it would be nice if they could drive at normal speeds
with a thermal overlay on the map which indicated heat zones.  i know next
to nothing about this side of things, but if anyone has any ideas i would
love to hear them.
 
this system will be within a darkened cabin environment, so requires easy
access buttons and highly visible display with at-a-glance operability.
minimal user interaction should be required for it's main functions.  would
also be nice if data were easily transferred to a home computer for a
possible database and for sharing of mapping information with other users,
and for easy updates to the system for some custom tools etc.
 
if there is such a system out-of-the-box, then that's great.  however i'm
not scared of putting this together myself.  i can do integrated mapping and
programming and stuff myself, and i won't have any major difficulty learning
new systems/languages.
 
anyway, an intermediate system will be good for the short term, something
that does MOST of the mapping stuff easily, so these guys will be happy with
a mid-range GPS or something in the mean time while i make a fully featured
system.
 
answers to the ideas i've posted will be much appreciated, and i'd love to
hear any other ideas that would be applicable to such a system.
 
thanks
 
ash

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