Hi,
Thanks to all those who replied to my question, it is restated below for reference:

"Hi Folks,

A word of warning, I am new to MI7.0 having recently upgraded from MI5.5 where I had 
everything nicely sorted!

I would like to place a scale bar and North arrow on my layout, however I have 
registered a raster image in the background, which has (unsuprisingly) contorted the 
cadastral data.

When I try the MI7.0 North Arrow MapBasic application, it places the North arrow 
straight to the top of the page despite the fact that the Cadastre has twisted and 
North is around 42 degrees further to the right.

I tried using the Scale Bar application that ships with MI7.0, however it warned me 
that the map window and the layout window were not properly setup to print to scale. I 
tried adjusting both the Map and Layout windows without success, that just stuffed up 
my Layout. Instead I hit Ignore (as you do...) and it seemed to lay the scale just 
fine - except that it was not correct!

Can anyone offer me advice on the correct way to apply these MBapp's or suggest 
alternative tools for me to use?"


I recieved several ideas to work around my problems, all listed below.
The most useful of which were:
Use Layscale.mbx to place a scalebar in the Layout Window and, 
Orient image so that North is pointing close to top of image prior to registration, 
thus minimising rotation of the vector data you are overlaying (Good thinking Narelle, 
will try this next time...).

I ended up using Layscale.mbx (available at www.paris-pc-gis.com/download.htm in the 
MLC project) to create the scalebar in the layout window and rotated one of the TTF 
arrows (that are available as symbols) and applied to it the rotation I knew existed, 
but this is rather approximate (thanks Jacques for wording this solution so 
concisely...).

The answers I recieved are all listed below:
"I can suggest this turn around... This is how I put all scale bars now...

Duplicate a copy of the map you are working on and put the scale bar on the Cosmetic 
layer. Turn off the diplay on ALL layers in that window leaving the scale bar visible. 
You add this window in the layout, you can move it then where ever you like. You can 
set the scale of that window to the same of any other map on the layout. By clicking 
on it and afterward choose the modify polygon parameter option, you can set the window 
(polygon...) where your scale bar is, to no borders or background. Perfect for 
inserting and moving wherever in the layout! You can duplicate it, change the scale to 
be the same of other windows it refers to, etc.
Gilbert Hache"

"I do not have an answer for your North arrow; you could certainly add one of the TTF 
arrows that are available as symbols and apply to it the rotation you know exists, but 
this is rather approximate.
For the scale, you could try LayScale (available at www.paris-pc-gis.com/download.htm 
in the MLC project) I have not tested it but as it uses values derived from the 
mapper, it should be not affected by the rotation within the mapper.
Jacques Paris"

"Hi
I usually put the N arrow on the layout as a seperate window. Try Layscale.mbx - a 
better option for scaling from the actual layout.
Hentie Viviers"

"I have a couple scalebar tools that puts it on the Layout, you can give it a try if 
you like...
as for the North arrow,, sorry no help there.
Jason Adam" Attached was Layscale2.mbx and ScaleBar.mbx.

Pete Smith (BrisbaneCC) also suggested using Layscale as did Narelle Barton (CairnsCC).

Thanks to all who replied.

Alistair.


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