>>>once you are "4-wheel-wise" you don't go where you know or even suspect boggy ground<<<
UH HUH!!!! That's the whole point!!!! Famous last words... "Hey Ya'll... watch'iss" Dave -----Original Message----- From: Neil Havermale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 2:08 AM To: Addison, Howard; Peter Horsb�ll M�ller; Bill Thoen; MapInfo-L Subject: RE: MI-L SUM: MapInfo Web Services Any four wheeler worth their salt knows as soon as your wheels spin stop and back out. Even more importantly once you are "4-wheel-wise" you don't go where you know or even suspect boggy ground. And lastly you never go alone; only with a backup you can rely on to pull you out. Only rookies and poags spin their wheels stupidly. -----Original Message----- From: Addison, Howard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 1:22 PM To: Peter Horsb�ll M�ller; Bill Thoen; MapInfo-L Subject: RE: MI-L SUM: MapInfo Web Services As a wise man once told me (my dad), "4 Wheel Drive means you travel further and get bogged deeper" The end result is you will need a bigger shovel. Knowing where you are when you get stuck doesn't help with the digging..... -----Original Message----- From: Peter Horsb�ll M�ller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 23 November 2004 10:58 AM To: Bill Thoen; MapInfo-L Subject: RE: MI-L SUM: MapInfo Web Services >> But I suppose using these new tools is like driving a truck with four-wheel drive. >> Now I can get stuck in much more remote places Yes, but then it's good it is GIS you are working with. You should be able to find a way out from anywhere ;-) Of course that require that someone else has been there before you and mapped the area ! Peter Horsb�ll M�ller GIS Developer Geographical Information & IT COWI A/S Odensevej 95 5260 Odense S. Denmark Tel + 45 6311 4900 Dir +45 6311 4908 Mob +45 5156 1045 Fax + 45 6311 4949 E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cowi.dk <http://www.cowi.dk/> ________________________________ From: Bill Thoen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tue 23-Nov-04 03:33 To: MapInfo-L Subject: MI-L SUM: MapInfo Web Services As I mentioned yesterday I've been exploring how to use XML and SOAP as applied to web services, and so I was looking for some working examples. Here's what I've received. First, a correction. The best place to dip into the ESRI (mostly free) web services is probably at http://arcweb.esri.com/arcwebonline/index.htm. MapInfo's entry into this arena is a product called Envinsa. Check it out at http://www.envinsa.com/. Ian Erickson pointed this one out and notes that "...specialized web services are NOT cheap but they simplify delivery of geo-spatial solutions to such a degree that more and more software developers will not need to be GIS experts, but rather just a subscriber to a geo-spatial service." I think that maybe he has something here... Should we developers be worried? But for now, there are still a few free toys to play with that will teach you how it's done. IL Thomas mentions TerraServer: "Microsoft TerraService has code examples, SOAP, etc. And you can link to it. See http://terraserver-usa.com/terraservice.asmx. Introductory material is here: http://terraservice.net/about.aspx."; Antoine Gilbert mentioned http://www.xmethods.com/, and suggested I go to the "full listing" link. This is a collection of generally non-map-oriented services --mostly free-- but as the first response to the "daily quote" one I tried said, "Free advice is worth what you paid for it." Antoine also mentioned XMLSpy, which is a toolkit to facilitate working with web services via SOAP and their WSDL (Web Service Description Language) file. As it turns out, I spent a half day on Sunday coding a SOAP request and response XML-parsing module in VB6 (because VB6 is what I have on my laptop at home) to access the Arcweb FindPlace web service, but when I got into my office this morning (where I have C# and .NET) I was shocked to realize that all you have to do to set up a client to "consume" a web service in the .NET environment is simply add the WSDL file to "Web References" and badda bing, all the objects for the web service are defined and ready to go! The only code you have to write after that is about 10 lines to get it to work. Took about 10 minutes. Wow! C#, .NET and the Visual Studio IDE is rather impressive! But I suppose using these new tools is like driving a truck with four-wheel drive. 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