Hi Mats,

Your post is actually right on the button. Excellent insight and a good idea.

Best regards/Med venlig hilsen
Lars V. Nielsen
GisPro, Denmark
http://www.gispro.dk/

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From: "Mats Elfstr�m" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Lars V. Nielsen (GisPro)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[email protected]>; "Ellingham Morgan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 2:45 PM
Subject: MI-L Mixed entity types - Differences between MapInfo and ArcView


Hi Lars - and the list!

I would like to offer another point of view on this question.
I have always regarded the ability to mix object types in a MapInfo table
as a great advantage.
The advantage of being able to store geographic information grouped on
subject matter, rather than its more or less arbitrary geometric
representation, is so obvious that it needs no argument.

Then why is not used, or regarded as a less desirable feature, or even a
problem?
I think the problem lies in the way MapInfo handles mixed topology tables,
when drawing them, making selections or thematic maps.
Then, it's true that mixed tables can create problems, and questions posed
by users often fall into these categories.
For instance, no one can be sure that points appear on top of regions when
drawing a table where both object types occur,
but this could be taken care of in the draw engine, by allowing an
internal draw order for each table.
Thematic maps are virtually impossible to create from mixed tables, but
this could be taken care of in the thematic engine by allowing different
schemes for points, lines and so on. Neither seems to be an impossible
programming task.

So my advice to MI Pro would be, continue to allow mixed tables but follow
this up in the interface and give users the tools to process these in an
intelligent and controlled fashion.

H�lsning / Best regards Mats.E
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Re: MI-L Differences between MapInfo and ArcView.






Hi Morgen,

> Ahh the never ending debate

True, but even more relevant today, after years of stand-still on
MapInfo's part !

>One comment in this string of emails I would like to pick up on.
>
>Handy maybe, but mixed topography tables usually throw MapInfo users
>into a fit. Single topology tables is not a severe limitation,
>and I'll wager that the vast majority of MapInfo tables are single
>topology anyway.
>
>Absolutely incorrect in my experience (..)

As the culprit behind the statement, I need to ask you whether this is
your personal experience as a super user, or an opinion
ordinary users have given you ?

My point wasn't that it was a bad feature - for super users - on the
contrary. I personally think it's a neat thing with many
applications. But I fear this sentiment isn't shared by too many ordinary
users. And the majority of data I've seen at multiple
customers is de-facto single topology.

Best regards/Med venlig hilsen
Lars V. Nielsen
GisPro, Denmark
http://www.gispro.dk/

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ellingham Morgan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 12:36 AM
Subject: RE: MI-L Differences between MapInfo and ArcView.


Ahh the never ending debate, I used the ESRI products at uni and found
them excellent to conduct my research and present my results
graphically, I am now in the workforce and use MI extensively - and have
found it good enough to do my work easily and efficiently.

Neither is technically better or worse, or may I say easier to learn.
ESRI's base packages are pretty simple, it's the weird and wonderful
extensions that get people worried (network analyst any1?).

One comment in this string of emails I would like to pick up on.

>Handy maybe, but mixed topography tables usually throw MapInfo users
into a fit. Single topology tables is not a severe limitation,
and I'll wager that the vast majority of MapInfo tables are single
topology anyway.

Absolutely incorrect in my experience, this excellent MapInfo feature
has allowed me to combine open space areas (turf, sports fields) with
infrastructure data (points - lights, litter bins etc) - on many
occasions this has proven to be the difference between going ahead with
our surveillance and not. I would estimate that 75% of all of our civil
spatial data has a mixed topology - something I would assume would be
universal across local government institutions.

Each has their Positives and negatives  Arc+ = Layouts, high end
advanced analysis, X tools! Arc- = Cost, compartment syndrome. MI+ =
stand alone package, cost, universal translator, labelling ! MI- =
printing, map creation.

Just my opinion as a humble end user people - thanks for letting me
waste my morning whilst looking like im working

Morgan


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