My thoughts exactly

Regards,
 
Andrew Hare
GIS Officer
Waimate District Council
New Zealand

-----Original Message-----
From: George Johnston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, 2 September 2005 6:26 a.m.
To: [email protected]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: MI-L Louisiana

Mr. VanDruten,

I have waited to comment on your note, below, until I
could comment in civil terms and make any points in a
civil and ordered manner.

Two individuals have asked what they could do to
assist in a continuing natural disaster, in effect you
told them not to bother, that the federal government
would handle it and that their platform of choice was
not of any use anyway.   Perhaps you missed the
lessons in grade school, for want of a horseshoe the
kingdom was lost .....    I say to anyone who wants to
see if they can help, you GO!   Do your best and see
how you can help.   I would like to assist if there is
any way to do so also.

Mr VanDruten, you do not know how they can assist, of
if whatever job they do will come up with a way to
save several or hundreds of lives, nesessity is the
mother of invention.   I congratulate you on being a
certified as a Federal GIST within ROSS, it is
certainly an accomplishment.   When it comes to being
in the right place at the right time and being able to
assist someone in need, it doesn't mean squat.

These two gentelmen can do whatever analysis they come
up with and can hand over their work to FEMA or
whoever else takes over so there will be something to
start with.   I know there are protocols and standards
to observe, but helping out in an emergency means you
do what you can with what you have where you are at.

Perhaps we might look at this differently, how can we
as a MapInfo community support the recovery effort.  
Can we work as a group on projects where there is no
coverage, but a need?   Is there something we can lend
our talents to that might make a difference to the
folks who have been so hard hit?   We are a community
who have professional talents that we can employ to
help those who have lost most, if not all, of what
they have.

Let us not let wet blankets like Mr. VanDruten dampen
our instincts to assist where we can to help others.  
Let's see what we can do.   I'm contacting MSNBC to
see what small town there are that need help and don't
have any resources.   It's a long shot, but it's
something.

George

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> Hello List,
> 
> Just some FYI information.  Although there may be a
> need right now, this
> type of info is probably being handled on the
> Federal Gov't end by the
> Incident Management Teams that are down their to
> provide relief.  I myself
> am a federal GIST, recognized within the resource
> ordering system as one.
> You would have to be a GIST within ROSS and be made
> "available" to help.
> Even if you have years of experience, you can't just
> me made a GIST because
> there are protocols for data collection, naming
> conventions, etc. that are
> taught to GIST's.  There was a huge need for GIS in
> the Columbia Space
> Shuttle response but I am not sure how much out of
> house personnel was
> used.  That incident was managed in the same way the
> Katrina response is
> now.  Also be aware that the federal standard for
> these type incidents is
> ArcGIS.
> 
> I am not saying that there no chance your services
> might or can be used,
> just making the point of what is probably going on.
> 
> On a side note, my wife is down there with a federal
> response team and they
> have no need for GIS services on their team at this
> time.
> 
> 
> Brian Van Druten
> (Embedded image moved to file: pic00491.jpg)
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> This is good stuff, Eric.
> 
> I would definitely be willing to donate my time...
> 
> -Ross E. Bagwell
> GIS Manager
> Vanco USA
> www.vanco.co.uk
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Eric Gagnon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 8:37 AM
> To: Mapinfo List
> Subject: MI-L Louisiana
> 
> 
> I was wondering...
> Would there be any  GIS/Mapping agencies in the
> State of Louisiana that
> would need our help.
> Since they lost everything and probably don't have
> working computers.
> 
> Would they need some help regarding cartography,
> number crunching or
> spatial analysis.
> 
> Maybe we could somehow lend a hand.
> 
> Just wondering.
> 
> 
> 
> Eric Gagnon, B.Sc., GIS Specialist
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