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-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of sam Palang Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 1:01 PM To: mapinfo-l@lists.directionsmag.com Subject: [MI-L] RE: Integrated Map Not Editable I just checked the form properties and there is no locked or read only propoerties in its prop list. And yes I can pretty much do everything else such as zoom or pan or even draw stuff on the cosmetic layer but the editable option in the layer window is graeyed out only for the symbol table that I have open. Sam >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Reply-To: mapinfo-l@lists.directionsmag.com >To: mapinfo-l@lists.directionsmag.com >Subject: MapInfo-L Digest, Vol 2, Issue 9 >Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 03:37:54 -0600 > >Send MapInfo-L mailing list submissions to > mapinfo-l@lists.directionsmag.com > >To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://www.directionsmag.com/mailman/listinfo/mapinfo-l >or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >You can reach the person managing the list at > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >than "Re: Contents of MapInfo-L digest..." > > >Today's Topics: > > 1. IDW documentation (Emre Aydin) > 2. Re: FW: [MI-L] MapInfo and ArcGIS Comparison (Bill Thoen) > 3. RE: create centroids quickly (Peter Horsb?ll M?ller) > 4. Integrated Map Not Editable (sam Palang) > 5. ArcPad to MapInfo (John Elliot) > 6. RE: Integrated Map Not Editable (Simmonds, Ashley (DTEI)) > 7. Re: create centroids quickly (Richard Greenwood) > 8. RE: IDW documentation (Jakob Lanstorp) > 9. Re: MapInfo and ArcGIS Comparison (Sue Beetlestone) > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Message: 1 >Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2005 14:43:11 +0200 >From: "Emre Aydin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: [MI-L] IDW documentation >To: <mapinfo-l@lists.directionsmag.com> >Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > >Hello > >I am wondering the algorithm created for IDW interpolation in MapInfo. >Does >MapInfo have a documentation for it? Any links would be highly appreciated. > > > >Thanks > > > >Emre > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 2 >Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2005 08:38:57 -0700 >From: Bill Thoen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: FW: [MI-L] MapInfo and ArcGIS Comparison >To: mapinfo-l@lists.directionsmag.com >Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > >On Sun, Dec 04, 2005 at 09:22:45PM +1100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > When there is a lull in the mapinfo list, there is nothing that > > sparks >it > > up like a good old MapInfo vs ESRI debate. > > > > Bill, this is definately one for the WIKI to get some traffic. I > > think >I > > raised the last time this was debated, or perhaps the second last > > one, >and > > I have to admit, ESRI are getting better. MapInfo .NET had better > > be >good > > to justify the few years standstill on MIP that has allowed ESRI to >catch > > up. > >Maybe I should invite Jack D. or ESRI-L members to post something on >the Wiki about how ArcGIS simply walks all over MapInfo these days. >Would that get people to post even a few words on the Wiki? > >There's been plenty of people logging in to the Wiki at >www.mapinfo-l.com, but it seems that nearly everyone's just lurking. >Not even a jot in the SandBox, which tells me people aren't even >interested in learning how to use it. Hell, we don't even have any >spammers yet! Everyone seems to be waiting for someone else to >entertain them. > >Ask not what your wiki can do for you, but what you can do for your >wiki. It really works better that way! > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 3 >Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2005 19:25:09 +0100 >From: Peter Horsb?ll M?ller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: [MI-L] create centroids quickly >To: "Richard Greenwood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Bagwell, Ross" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Cc: mapinfo-l@lists.directionsmag.com >Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > >Richard, > >If you want to crate these centroid objects in another table this is >how to >do it: > >Set Table NEW_TABLE FastEdit On Undo Off >Insert Into NEW_TABLE (OBJ) Select Centroid(OBJ) From OLD_TABLE Commit >Table NEW_TABLE Set Table NEW_TABLE FastEdit Off Undo On > >NEW_TABLE: The table to insert the centroids into >OLD_TABLE: The table to read the centroids from > > >Peter Horsbøll Møller >GIS Developer, MTM >Geographical Information & IT > >COWI A/S >Odensevej 95 >DK-5260 Odense S. >Denmark > >Tel +45 6311 4900 >Direct +45 6311 4908 >Mob +45 5156 1045 >Fax +45 6311 4949 >E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] >http://www.cowi.dk/gis > >COWI har fået ny hjemmeside. Ydelserne GIS og IT, kort, kortlægning, 3D >visualisering og arealforvaltning ligger under SAMFUND. Se mere her : >www.cowi.dk > >COWI has changed its homepage. Our services within cadastre and >landadministration, geodataproducts, mapping and GIS can be seen under >SOCIETY. See our services here: www.cowi.com > > >-----Original Message----- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard >Greenwood >Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 7:29 PM >To: Bagwell, Ross >Cc: mapinfo-l@lists.directionsmag.com >Subject: Re: [MI-L] create centroids quickly > > >Thanks for the replies! Suggestions are as follows: > > > Update table set obj = createpoint(centroidx(obj),centroidy(obj)) > > > Update [tablename] Set Obj = Centroid([tablename].obj) > >Regards, >-- >Richard Greenwood >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >www.greenwoodmap.com > >_______________________________________________ >MapInfo-L mailing list >MapInfo-L@lists.directionsmag.com >http://www.directionsmag.com/mailman/listinfo/mapinfo-l > > > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 4 >Date: Sun, 04 Dec 2005 14:16:48 -0500 >From: "sam Palang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: [MI-L] Integrated Map Not Editable >To: MapInfo-L@lists.directionsmag.com >Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed > >I have a mapinfo map window placed on an MS Access form, but I can not >change any symbs on the map because the table appears non editable. >When the same table is opened directly in Mapinfo it can be edited. Is >this normal for embeded tables ? Is there a way to make the embedded >map editable? Any help is much appreciated. > >Sam Palang > >_________________________________________________________________ >Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee® >Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 5 >Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 11:57:46 +1100 >From: "John Elliot" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: [MI-L] ArcPad to MapInfo >To: <mapinfo-l@lists.directionsmag.com> >Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > >Does anyone know if there is a free utility that enables files created >with ArcPad to be converted to MapInfo. > >John > >John Elliot >Bathurst, NSW 2795, AUSTRALIA > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 6 >Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 14:31:09 +1030 >From: "Simmonds, Ashley (DTEI)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: [MI-L] Integrated Map Not Editable >To: MapInfo-L@lists.directionsmag.com >Message-ID: > ><[EMAIL PROTECTED] >au> > >Content-Type: text/plain > >it shouldn't make a difference. > >check the properties of your access forms, whether it is locked or >read-only >or something. > >are you able to do anything else in it such as navigate and zoom and >layer control and whatnot? is it only editing you cannot do? > >-----Original Message----- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of sam >Palang >Sent: Monday, 5 December 2005 5:47 AM >To: MapInfo-L@lists.directionsmag.com >Subject: [MI-L] Integrated Map Not Editable > >I have a mapinfo map window placed on an MS Access form, but I can not >change any symbs on the map because the table appears non editable. >When the same table is opened directly in Mapinfo it can be edited. Is >this normal for embeded tables ? Is there a way to make the embedded >map editable? Any help is much appreciated. > >Sam Palang > >_________________________________________________________________ >Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from >McAfee(r) Security. >http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 > >_______________________________________________ >MapInfo-L mailing list >MapInfo-L@lists.directionsmag.com >http://www.directionsmag.com/mailman/listinfo/mapinfo-l > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 7 >Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2005 21:42:05 -0700 >From: Richard Greenwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: [MI-L] create centroids quickly >To: mapinfo-l@lists.directionsmag.com >Message-ID: > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > >On 12/4/05, Peter Horsbøll Møller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Richard, > > > > If you want to crate these centroid objects in another table this is > > how >to do it: > > > > Set Table NEW_TABLE FastEdit On Undo Off > > Insert Into NEW_TABLE (OBJ) Select Centroid(OBJ) From OLD_TABLE > > Commit Table NEW_TABLE Set Table NEW_TABLE FastEdit Off Undo On > >Peter, > >Thanks! Good points on: FastEdit On Undo Off > >What I am working on is a fast, clean, way to get the user selection to >hard copy print. In most cases one can insert the selection into the >map and do a style override, but sometimes you want to show centroids >(like for very small polygons at small map scales). > >A couple MapInfo "wish list" additions would be: > + options > preferences > printer - 'print selection objects' > + style selection for centroids > + zoom level for centroid and node display > >But MI seems to have their heads buried too far up their .NET >posteriors to concern themselves with the needs of users. > >Regrads, >-- >Richard Greenwood >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >www.greenwoodmap.com > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 8 >Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 08:40:15 +0100 >From: "Jakob Lanstorp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: [MI-L] IDW documentation >To: "Emre Aydin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Cc: mapinfo-l@lists.directionsmag.com >Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > >I have not seen any documentation for the IDW implemented in MI Pro, >but it >would be nice to get it specified. > >The formula is pretty simple. The two links are close to the MI way in >discriping the IDW. >In MI you do not have a lot of settings to adjust. Very strangely MI Corp >but there TIN and IDW interpolation to the raster format MIG in the >Thematic menu mixing vector and raster GIS up. > >http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/digkonyv/havas/mellekl/vm25/vma04.pdf >(Actually >from the Vertical Mapper help) > >http://www.gammadesign.com/GSWinHelp/interpolation.htm > > >HTH, > >Jakob Lanstorp >Software Consultant >Geographical Information & IT > >COWI A/S >Odensevej 95 >DK-5260 Odense S. > >Tel +45 6311 4900 >Fax +45 6311 4949 >Mob +45 5050 8087 >E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] >http://www.cowi.dk <http://www.cowi.dk/> >http://www.cowi.com <http://www.cowi.com/> > >________________________________ > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Emre Aydin >Sent: Sun 12/4/2005 13:43 >To: mapinfo-l@lists.directionsmag.com >Subject: [MI-L] IDW documentation > > > > >Hello > >I am wondering the algorithm created for IDW interpolation in MapInfo. >Does >MapInfo have a documentation for it? Any links would be highly appreciated. > > > >Thanks > > > >Emre >_______________________________________________ >MapInfo-L mailing list >MapInfo-L@lists.directionsmag.com >http://www.directionsmag.com/mailman/listinfo/mapinfo-l > > > > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 9 >Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 09:33:23 -0000 >From: "Sue Beetlestone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: [MI-L] MapInfo and ArcGIS Comparison >To: "Young Andrew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > <mapinfo-l@lists.directionsmag.com> >Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > >Hello Andrew > >I entirely agree with you. We have used this capability when >structuring >our >Mastermap holding so that - for example - all the height info (points and >text) is in one table, and the boundary data has linework on in one table, >but all the "bits and pieces" - text, mereing symbols, posts etc in >another - they can thus be appropriately zoom-layered and be easily >switched >on and of by users who wish to de-clutter their map. > >Sue Beetlestone >Powys County Council > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Young Andrew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <mapinfo-l@lists.directionsmag.com> >Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 3:55 PM >Subject: FW: [MI-L] MapInfo and ArcGIS Comparison > > > > > > > > Hi Lars, > > > > I think the difference here is between practical applications and > > practical application. I can understand that anyone wishing to > > create >any > > kind of 'application' from MapInfo should use singular topologies > > (my implication behind 'GIS purist'). Out of the box use, it is far > > easier >to > > have a single file with combined topologies. One example, I have a > > lot >of > > non-GIS people using MapInfo to enter their own data. Land > > Surveyors, Grounds Maintenance, Refuse Collection etc. They find it > > very easy to >open > > a table, add what they want and save. In another authority I know > > using ESRI, all of their data is inputted by 'GIS people' because > > they can do >it > > quicker than the 'ordinary' staff. > > Another example is where we have a table with different topologies > > representing different things, points for addresses, polygons for > > areas >of > > land, lines for footpaths. In this layer, it is a matter of a few > > clicks for the user to find everything within a certain area or > > within a number of meters from a point. Ok, single topologies may > > provide 'better' data but why go to the extra trouble if mixed > > topology is quicker, easier and still fit for purpose. After all, at > > the end of the day, I can still easily divide the >topologies > > into seperate files with a few queries if necessary. > > > > Andrew Young > > City of Durham > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Lars V. Nielsen (Hvenegaard) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: 02 December 2005 12:31 > > To: Young Andrew > > Cc: mapinfo-l@lists.directionsmag.com > > Subject: Re: [MI-L] MapInfo and ArcGIS Comparison > > > > > > Hi Andrew, > > > > It's not a question of purisme or not. It's a question of practical > > applications. > > > > I have yet to see any serious data model that build upon using mixed > > topological datasets. The norm is using singular topologies, > > separating points from lines, and lines from polygons. > > > > I do see some specialized uses for mixed topology, but not many. > > Usually mixed topology leads to chaotic data. Convienient, but > > dangerous. > > > > Best regards / Med venlig hilsen > > Lars V. Nielsen > > GisPro > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Young Andrew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <mapinfo-l@lists.directionsmag.com> > > Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 12:19 PM > > Subject: RE: [MI-L] MapInfo and ArcGIS Comparison > > > > > > > > Lars, > > > >>What objective argument leads you to that conclusion ? If you're > > referring to the ability of the TAB format to hold multiple > > topography, >I > > find that to be mostly irrelevant, 1) since most use the tables for > > single-topography data anyway, and 2) most users are annoyed by the > > horrendeous old fashioned file system dependency compared to todays > > standards.< > > > > Subjectively, far from being irrelevant, the ability of TAB formats > > to store multiple topography is a huge plus to myself and my users. > > Being able to store points, polygons, text labels etc. on one file > > may have the GIS purists throwing their hands up in dismay, but as a > > way for my Land Surveyor > > to maintain a land terrier with annotation (text), areas of ownership > > (polygons)and survey lines (polylines), it's a huge benefit. > > Yes, I know as I said before, the GIS purists will be having nervous > > breakdowns, but I don't care. It works efficiently, extremely well and >it > > does the job far better than with single topographic tables. > > > > Andrew Young > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Lars > > Nielsen (GisPro) > > Sent: 02 December 2005 10:32 > > To: Flavio Hendry > > Cc: mapinfo-l@lists.directionsmag.com > > Subject: Re: [MI-L] MapInfo and ArcGIS Comparison > > > > > > Hi Flavio, > > > > Just to comment on your points : > > > >> MapInfo is far easier to use and far more powerful when it comes > >> to > > fiddeling around with data (capture of smple features and > > attributes) Ease of use is always a matter of choice and personal > > experience. Personally I think the SQL interface in MapInfo is > > horrible compared to the easy >and > > intuitive QBE interface in ArcGIS (similar to that in Access). I > > compare this to the old Texas/HP calculator feud over "normal" > > arithmetic >notation > > versus Reverse Polish Notation, the latter being the better imho. > > > >> MapInfo is way faster > > Is it? What benchmark tests are you referring to here? Besides, > > performance is often overrated imho, e.g. if you need to make 10 > > quick steps instead >1 > > slow to perform a given task. The user is often the slowest GIS >component, > > making it unimportant which software is faster. > > > >> MapInfo has the better data format (see my other mail to Lars) > > Has it ? What objective argument leads you to that conclusion ? If >you're > > referring to the ability of the TAB format to hold multiple > > topography, >I > > find that to be mostly irrelevant, 1) since most use the tables for > > single-topography data anyway, and 2) most users are annoyed by the > > horrendeous old fashioned file system dependency compared to todays > > standards. > > > > And what other mail is that in particular, btw ?? > > > >> for relatively simple mapping it is fast and fine > > I agree. But that's not very helpful in a comparison, it's basically >just > > a > > hear-say argument (= management factoid?). > > > >> way more integrated into the Windows world > > Is it ? Again, what objective argument leads you to that conclusion > > ? I find that MapInfo still holds a number of old-fashioned quirks, > > that Windows has > > left behind ages ago. MIPro is still mostly a Windows 95 look'n'feel > > application imho, in spite of some newer gui elements having been added > > later. > > > >> interoperability is better (opens directly many formats) > > You obviously haven't heard of Data Interoperability. MapInfo is WAY > > behind on this ball field ! > > And there's still a huge difference between "opening" and "converting", > > even > > though the conversions run under the hood. > > > >> MapInfo works with ASCII format (i.e. Workspaces and MIF/MID); I > > personally do not like these binary workspaces ... > > I agree - in princple, but to an average user it's completely >irrelevant. > > And MIF/MID is an exchange format, not an internal format, and as > > such irrelevant in this case. Almost any software can generate and > > use ASCII based exchange data. > > > > What I personally dislike, is the consistent unstableness of the > > ASCII based workspace files when disk based changes occur. I would > > opt for a binary geodatabase any day. > > Having the opportunity to hand edit a cripled workspace file is not a > > fantastic feature, it's a buggy work-around ! > > > > Best regards / Med venlig hilsen > > Lars V. 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