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Lähettäjä: Mike Jenne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Lähetetty: ke 31.5.2006 14:27
Vastaanottaja: 'Joutsiniemi Anssi'; [email protected]
Aihe: RE: [MI-L] [SUM:] MBX documentation



Anssi,
I may have missed it earlier, but where are you located?

Just curious...

Mike Jenne
JCSI
Trussville, Alabama USA

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Anssi
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 5:56 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [MI-L] [SUM:] MBX documentation

Dear Friends,

Within past 24 hours there has been a rather impulsive discussion on
controversial suggestion of mine to document what MBX's are made of. Bill,
Uffe, 3*Ian, Rich, Trey + less than half dozen anonymous persons expessed
they opinions that seem to refer pretty much same issues, that I'll try to
summarize (but unfortunatelly without satisfying conclusion). Please find
who
said what from the original thread.

Personally I have a great sympathy for general attitude expressed by Rich.
I'm truly in favour of all this freedom of information, speech etc. slightly
romantic peace-love-good-happiness stuff. Yet very much aware it confronting
M$ world and interests of McInfo Corp I have chosen too. Stagnation by
choose
I'd say. Even though I still feel that file formats are closer to
mathematical formulas than intellectual property, I can see the dim line
between hacking information and third party cracking abuse...

I guess the big issue never got solved: What differentiates the good use
from
the bad one? Clearly decompiling code that is not you own is generally a no,
no thing. But decompiling itself can have also its positive sides. Lost
source codes, version detection, spoting stolen snippets seem to be silently
accepted usages, since the decompilability it is kind of unavoidable feature
of MBX, that is hard to escape. The problem remains: Who should be worried
about this? Who should act?

A rich discussion was found using the information for compiler building. A
fruitfull approach was a suggestion for Open Source Compiler by a group of
MI
users. Unfortunatelly I'm not skilled enough to carry a project this big (,
otherwise I'd probably done it by now), but naturally I'm glad to help if
someone is willing to take an initiative. The difficult issue is how it
could
be done by law, since it easily becomes legal issue of Corp. Half the U.S.
nation is lawyers and other half potential criminals, so possibly some of
the
first ones follow the list as well and this can be discussed in detail if
necessary. ;o)

Counting pros & cons of discussion I have a feeling that at this point the
misuse of information is much, much easier and likelly than the potential
benefits. Personally I think the threads discussed got little exaggerated
and
emotional, but I guess it is worth waiting if the balance shifts other way
around or otherwise interesting projects emerge.

Thanks for your interest,
Bye now
Anssi



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