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I also agree that these changes should be
"optionally set" via the Preferences dialog.
Today I was editing a map and had to add a few
text labels.
I did my typical Ctrl-C and Ctrl-V (to copy / paste
the label so that I could edit the copy and move it to a new position). However,
upon pasting, the Mapper Window zoomed to the extent of the label. Very annoying
as I was originally working at a good enough zoom level to select labels for
working on.
Sure I could then choose Map > Previous View,
but it's a bugger.
Bill
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 6:59
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Subject: RE: [MI-L] SUMMARY: MI 8.5
Copy/Paste issue
Derek,
Some feedback as
requested:
1) You must
definitely provide an option for the user to choose NOT to zoom during a
"Query>Find Selection". This would be best as a user set preference
and I would recommend it is 'off' by default. It worries me that you
mentioned "It is unclear why it had been done this way". Those
of us who use MapInfo for cartographic work (map production) understand
extremely well why it was done this way but that seems to have been lost
within MapInfo corp. The basic reason is we need to preserve
scale! Don't be guided by how you think we should use MapInfo
but how it is actually used out there in the real world.
2) I see no reason
to include a preference to choose to pan or not in a "Query>Find Selection"
operation. That's the very reason we use this facility - of course it
should pan automatically. I'll choose whether to zoom to it once I get
to it. This pan facility is what allows us to rapidly produce many different
maps using a layer of boxes as an index.
3) Copy/paste -
I'd prefer it was just that, no other functions forced on the user. We
can always perform a "Query>Find Selection" or Ctrl A for fast access if we
want. If necessary a separate preference for copy/paste to zoom/pan or
not could be included if other feedback suggested it. This preference
needs to be independent of any preferences for "Query>Find
Selection".
The whole
copy/paste/pan/zoom issue is a much more minor issue as generally copy/paste
happens duing data maintenance operations where scaling is
generally less important.
"Query>Find Selection" often happens during map production
operations, hence the importance of preserving scale.
The bottom line is
there must be a facility allowing the user to use "Query>Find Selection"
without changing the scale/zoom of the affected map windows.
Your suggestion of
removing the new preferences from the registry sounds good - I can't wait a
year before I can efficiently produce scaled maps.
Thankyou for
requesting feedback!
Regards
Vicky Bonwick
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As
many of you have discovered, there is a change in the way Find Selection is
done in MI Pro 8.5. Some of you have also discovered that Copy/Paste
has done a Find Selection for many versions, and this functionality has
picked up the change made to Find Selection.
The change itself relates to how we treated single
objects. In the case of single object selections and Find Selection,
previous to MI Pro 8.5, we performed a pan operation but not a zoom.
It is unclear why it had been done this way. One thing we do
know is that there is no spatial reference to provide a zoom for a single
point object. The fact that find selection did not work for single
objects became a bug in MI Pro 8.5, and was "fixed". Instead of the
single object check, now there is a check to see if the MBR of the selection
is not empty. So, we will pan for point objects or certain other
cases, such as a selection containing multiple coincident points. For
all other cases, we will pan and zoom. I think this fix is valid,
since it makes the Find Selection command more consistent.
But, we understand your pain and we
would like to do something to address this issue. What we are leaning
towards is a preference, or perhaps a few preferences. Concerning how
this would look, we would like your feedback. Here are some options,
but please feel free to provide others:
Should we provide a preference to not perform a Find Selection during
the copy/paste operation?
Should
we provide a preference to not perform a Zoom, but still perform the Pan
operation of the Find Selection during the copy/paste operation?
Should we provide separate preferences
for Zoom and Pan (although we would not do a Zoom without doing a Pan) for
copy/paste? This would provide more complete control, but also increases the
complexity of the preferences dialog and the accompanying documentation.
While the added control may be nice, if it isn't necessary is it just
getting in the way, and not keeping it simple?
Particularly if we have just a "don't zoom"
preference, should Find Selection obey this preference? Should Find
Selection have its own preference? Or should the Query > Find Selection
always do a pan and zoom?
One
other point. We have a policy in maintenance patch releases of not
doing any UI changes. This relates to localizing MI Pro for different
languages - basically, we don't localize maintenance releases. So, our
patches will upgrade any version of MI Pro, regardless of language.
So, we can't add preferences as such in a maintenance release.
To get around this obstacle and make it so you don't have to wait
until the next full release to get this addressed, we can get these new
preferences out of the registry. You add a new specific registry key,
and we will treat it as a preference. The actual UI will be changed
during the next full release of the product. We have used similar
schemes in past development cycles.
Thanks for your input. To help generate discussion, you can
reply to MapInfo-L, as I will monitor the list.
Derek Snyder
MapInfo Corporation
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