Mike,

Thanks for the tips but it seems to me if MapInfo gives us the option 
of using a transparent raster they should make sure it works. Seems 
like this is a problem not only for me but in later version of MI too. 

Another option is to use Blue Marbles Geographic Transformer and 
clip and reproject the DRG into Lat/Long. This way your rasters are 
straight "up & down" and no need to set white to transparent. While I 
don't have the option of purchasing a $750 or so piece of software 
others might. Come monday a rant to MapInfo will hopefully shed 
some light on the situation.

-Carl

On 13 Mar 99, at 8:18, JCSI MAPS wrote:

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> Carl,
> I have been through this grinder so many times I can't count.  I finally
> got tired of trying to print transparent DRGs, so now I just clip them to
> avoid this problem.  However, I have two potential solutions for you, if
> you're currently in desperation.
> 
> I have checked with other folks who have experienced similar problems. One
> recurring suggestion is to use a print driver called "SuperPrint". It's
> available from a company called Zenographics. Their web site is
> www.zeno.com. According to the web site, it is compatible with Windows NT
> 3.50 and 4.0. The program ($49.95) can be purchased and downloaded
> directly from their site. There is a list of supported printers at the
> site; you probably should consult it prior to trying this option.
> Zenographics also has "high end" versions of Superprint that support HP
> plotters and large format printers, but these are considerably more
> expensive (i.e. hundreds of dollars) than the standard version.   A
> caveat: I have not used this program, but have clients who have, to
> varying degrees of success.  If you elect to go the high end-high dollar
> route, I STRONGLY recommend that you talk with Zeno's tech people and let
> them know exactly what you're doing (hardware/software configs, etc.) and
> coordinate up front (if possible) for a money-back guarantee if their
> software doesn't resolve your problem.
> 
> The second solution is a work-around that gets the bear fed, but it has
> its limitations.  Set up your maps the way you want them, and then open a
> layout. Use the "Save Window As" option to save the layout window as a
> JPEG image file.  When you do this, set the width to some huge number
> (start experimenting with around 36") which creates a larger image file,
> which subsequently preserves most of your resolution.  The resultant JPEG
> can then be printed to your plotter.  Two problems with this option.  1)
> You can't accurately specify the scale of the final product.  2)  If you
> have any overlay information on the DRG (such as vector lines, symbols,
> text, etc.) they will be distorted.  For whatever reason, as an example,
> it will consistently distort text as smaller and symbols as larger.  Go
> figure.
> 
> Good luck.
> 
> Mike Jenne
> Digital Raster Graphic (DRG) Topographic Map Exchange
> www.pipeline.com/~jcsi-maps/drgs
> 
> At 09:19 PM 3/12/99 -0900, Carl Schaefer wrote:
> >Hello all,
> >
> >Well, when it rains it pours...
> >
> >I'm having serious problems getting USGS Digital Raster Graphics 
> >(DRG) with white set as transparent to print. I'm getting these 
> >"monster spool files" which use up all available drive space and then
> >crash. I've researched past posts to the list and have tried all remedies
> >suggested with no success. In fact, I successfully printed a 60+mb 8bit
> >greyscale Tiff (shaded relief image from USGS) with black set as
> >transparent earlier in the week but now with these measly 5mb DRG's
> >things are choking. I've tried the following:
> >
> >1) Converting 8 bit color DRG to 8 bit grey scale.
> >2) Changing my white to black in Corel Photo-Paint, then setting 
> >black to transparent in MI.
> >3) Setting the background window color to something other than 
> >white (or any color used in the DRG)
> >4) Editing my registry to set my TrueColor DWORD to 0
> >
> >I've tried all the above and any variation on the above. In the middle of
> >all this I tried resending my 60mb Tiff map and it worked....go figure.
> >
> >I'm running MI 4.1 on Win95a - 96mb RAM, 400mb free hdd space. 
> >HP 650C v2.5 print driver with process in computer checked on.
> >
> >I think I'm ready to throw the #@$%#@ computer out the window.
> >
> >Did I miss something?
> >-Carl
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> Carl,<br>
> I have been through this grinder so many times I can't count.&nbsp; I
> finally got tired of trying to print transparent DRGs, so now I just clip
> them to avoid this problem.&nbsp; However, I have two potential solutions
> for you, if you're currently in desperation.<br> <br> I have checked with
> other folks who have experienced similar problems. One recurring
> suggestion is to use a print driver called &quot;SuperPrint&quot;. It's
> available from a company called Zenographics. Their web site is <a
> href=3D"http://www.zeno.com/" eudora=3D"autourl"><font=
>  color=3D"#0000FF"><u>www.zeno.com</a></font></u><font color=3D"#000000">.
> According to the web site, it is compatible with Windows NT 3.50 and 4.0.
> The program ($49.95) can be purchased and downloaded directly from their
> site. There is a list of supported printers at the site; you probably
> should consult it prior to trying this option. Zenographics also has
> &quot;high end&quot; versions of Superprint that support HP plotters and
> large format printers, but these are considerably more expensive (i.e.
> hundreds of dollars) than the standard version.&nbsp;&nbsp; A caveat: I
> have not used this program, but have clients who have, to varying degrees
> of success.&nbsp; If you elect to go the high end-high dollar route, I
> STRONGLY recommend that you talk with Zeno's tech people and let them know
> exactly what you're doing (hardware/software configs, etc.) and coordinate
> up front (if possible) for a money-back guarantee if their software
> doesn't resolve your problem.<br> <br> The second solution is a
> work-around that gets the bear fed, but it has its limitations.&nbsp; Set
> up your maps the way you want them, and then open a layout.&nbsp; Use the
> &quot;Save Window As&quot; option to save the layout window as a JPEG
> image file.&nbsp; When you do this, set the width to some huge number
> (start experimenting with around 36&quot;) which creates a larger image
> file, which subsequently preserves most of your resolution.&nbsp; The
> resultant JPEG can then be printed to your plotter.&nbsp; Two problems
> with this option.&nbsp; 1) You can't accurately specify the scale of the
> final product.&nbsp; 2)&nbsp; If you have any overlay information on the
> DRG (such as vector lines, symbols, text, etc.) they will be
> distorted.&nbsp; For whatever reason, as an example, it will consistently
> distort text as smaller and symbols as larger.&nbsp; Go figure.<br> <br>
> Good luck.<br> <br> Mike Jenne<br> Digital Raster Graphic (DRG)
> Topographic Map Exchange<br> <a
> href=3D"http://www.pipeline.com/~jcsi-maps/drgs"=
>  eudora=3D"autourl">www.pipeline.com/~jcsi-maps/drgs</a><br>
> <br>
> At 09:19 PM 3/12/99 -0900, Carl Schaefer wrote:<br>
> &gt;Hello all,<br>
> &gt;<br>
> &gt;Well, when it rains it pours...<br>
> &gt;<br>
> &gt;I'm having serious problems getting USGS Digital Raster Graphics
> <br>
> &gt;(DRG) with white set as transparent to print. I'm getting these=20
> <br> &gt;&quot;monster spool files&quot; which use up all available drive
> space and then <br> &gt;crash. I've researched past posts to the list and
> have tried all <br> &gt;remedies suggested with no success. In fact, I
> successfully printed <br> &gt;a 60+mb 8bit greyscale Tiff (shaded relief
> image from USGS) with <br> &gt;black set as transparent earlier in the
> week but now with these=20 <br> &gt;measly 5mb DRG's things are choking.
> I've tried the following:<br> &gt;<br> &gt;1) Converting 8 bit color DRG
> to 8 bit grey scale.<br> &gt;2) Changing my white to black in Corel
> Photo-Paint, then setting <br> &gt;black to transparent in MI.<br> &gt;3)
> Setting the background window color to something other than <br> &gt;white
> (or any color used in the DRG)<br> &gt;4) Editing my registry to set my
> TrueColor DWORD to 0<br> &gt;<br> &gt;I've tried all the above and any
> variation on the above. In the middle <br> &gt;of all this I tried
> resending my 60mb Tiff map and it worked....go <br> &gt;figure.<br>
> &gt;<br> &gt;I'm running MI 4.1 on Win95a - 96mb RAM, 400mb free hdd
> space. <br> &gt;HP 650C v2.5 print driver with process in computer checked
> on.<br> &gt;<br> &gt;I think I'm ready to throw the #@$%#@ computer out
> the window.<br> &gt;<br> &gt;Did I miss something?<br> &gt;-Carl<br>
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