Pablo,

You need to be more explicit with respect to what you have 
and what you want to do with what you have.

For instance, the GPS satellites broadcast their positions 
in the geocentric coordinate system with respect to the 
WGS84 Datum (XYZ).  GPS receivers commonly output readouts 
in Latitude, Longitude, Ellipsoid Height or sometimes UTM 
(X,Y, Ellipsoid Height).  Some "shirt-pocket" grade 
receivers (Garmin 12XL) can also provide a "local" 
user-defined Transverse Mercator Grid that is (X,Y, 
Ellipsoid Height.)  Some receivers are differential-capable 
and can provide better accuracy than single point-positions 
on a single-frequency 8-12 channel receiver 5 meters versus 
15 meters to 100 meters accuracy), some are dual-frequency 
and in differential mode can provide relative positions 
better than one centimeter horizontal, two centimeters 
vertical with appropriate observational techniques and 
post-processing.

You have "X's and Y's coordinates that you obtained with 
GPS in WGS84 Datum."  That's not good enough a description.

"How do I translate that to another in Venezuela???"

Well, Pablo, there are a number of coordinate systems that 
exist in Venezuela.  There's the Loma Quintana Datum of 
1911 that has X,Y coordinates on the Compensated Secant 
Conic Projection, and the Provisional South American Datum 
of 1956 (origin a La Canoa) that has X,Y coordinates on the 
UTM Grid.  Both Datums use the International Ellipsoid of 
1909.

Furthermore, there are over three dozen (36+) local Grids 
used on the Loma Quintana Datum of 1911 that were developed 
by various oil companies in the 1920's through the 1950's. 
 Some of these also include the Maracaibo Systems (in the 
plural), on the Loma Quintana Datum of 1911: Lake Maracaibo 
Lambert I, Lake Maracaibo Lambert II, Puerto La Cruz 
Polyhedric, Pirit� Polyhedric, Maracaibo Vicinity Oil Grids 
(many), Barcelona Vicinity Oil Grids (many), Matur�n 
Vicinity Oil Grids (many), and many Dabajuro Vicinity Oil 
Grids.

Other Datums in Venezuela include: Bah�a Honda Datum, 
Castiletes Datum, Estanques Datum, Soldano Rock 
Datum,Testigos Astro Datum, Zapara Island Datum, Old 
Trinidad Datum of 1910 & Naparima Datum 1972 (the latter 
two transferred from Trinidad since the 1940's and 
obviously later).

Furthermore,on the PSAD 1956 there is also the La Canoa 
Polyhedric, and on the Old Trinidad Datum of 1903, the 
Trinidad Cassini-Soldner and the Tobago Cassini-Soldner 
exist in the far east (Pedernales).

Pablo, I've been to la Cartografia Nacional, I've lectured 
in Geodetic Software to their staff, and I've just 
scratched the surface of the complexity of the Venezuelan 
Coordinate Systems.  I have even met with Dr. Romero (in 
1984) and I interviewed him on his personal efforts in 
establishing the Datum Origin at La Canoa.  That old 
gentleman was rightfully proud of his superb design and 
execution of one of the last well-done classical geodetic 
datums in the world.

So, Pablo, you say you want to go to a local Grid in 
Venezuela.  Pray tell, which one?

Cliff

Clifford J. Mugnier ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
The Topographic Engineering Laboratory
Department of Civil and Environmental Engineering
UNIVERSITY OF NEW ORLEANS
New Orleans, Louisiana  70148

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On Tuesday, 08 June, 1999 9:08 AM, Catherine Galgano 
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> Can anyone help Pablo?
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> Date: Tuesday, May 04, 1999 8:39 AM
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> HI, My name is Pablo I�m from Venezuela I need some
> information, if I have
> X�s and Y�s coordinates that i obtain with GPS and it 
have
> the datum WGS84
> how I can change or how I can traslate that coordinates
> whit that datum to
> another in Venezuela??? in MAPINFO???
> thank you
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