Thanks for looking into this Matt!

In my search I found this very helpful info for my situation:
http://www.oryx.com/ams/landsat.html
http://www.gdal.org/gdal_translate.html

The translated tiff produces color for me in the mapnik rendering process:
gdal_translate -of GTiff -co "TILED=YES"  mytiff.tif translated.tif

On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 10:18 AM, Matt Hanson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I looked more into this.   Mapnik utilizes plugins for input which creates a 
> problem because there's no direct interface to the GDAL plugin.  When you 
> open a GDAL file in Mapnik it goes through each band and checks the 
> GDALColorIntrep field for each RasterBand.  If it finds a band set to each of 
> red/green/blue then you'll get an RGB band.  If even one is missing you'll 
> get a grayscale image.   Note that if color info is not set the grayscale 
> band used for rendering will always be the last band in the file.   It's 
> during this time that the data is actually read in for these bands, so 
> there's no hope for setting color bands in styles as at that point it's too 
> late.   I also noted that the entire datafile is read in for the bands on 
> open, the GDAL file handle is not kept around, simply read in and then 
> ditched.   I don't think this is all that desirable because you are reading 
> in the file at full resolution (what if you have a 10Kx10K raster?) and only 
> downsized later during t
 he
>  rendering process.
>
> I think this is an inherent problem in Mapnik's design because it greatly 
> reduces its flexibility and has introduced some serious limitations.   I'm 
> not sure the plugin method is the best approach especially with the existence 
> of the GDAL/OGR library there isn't a need for other plugins.   The plugin 
> design should be replaced simply with a fixed dependency on GDAL/OGR.  After 
> all GDAL fairly easily supports addition of custom formats so adding a format 
> to GDAL would extend to Mapnik.
>
> I'd like to do this but it'd likely be a large job and difficult due to the 
> general lack of documentation and comments.
>
> matt
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matt Bartolome [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 8:11 PM
> To: Matt Hanson
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Mapnik-users] GDAL raster rendering
>
> I'm going to try using tiffcp (libtiff-tools in ubuntu) to flatten the
> geotiff and then manually set the extents.
>
> Hopefully someone can chime in and shed some light on the
> gdal/geotiff/rastersymbolizer stuff.
>
> -Matt
>
> On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 3:02 PM, Matt Hanson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Hi Matt, great question!  I say that because I've asked the same thing a
>> couple times in the last week on both the user and dev lists (see my
>> post from this morning).
>>
>> As near as I can tell mapnik gets the RGB bands when it reads in the
>> image from the file itself, it's not set with the style.  I hope I'm
>> wrong though because it really should be adjustable.
>>
>> In your case I'm not sure\hy it's not setting them to the default RGB
>> bands that are in the file itself - I had thought that if there were
>> bands set in the file that's what it used but if it's not doing that
>> either...I'm not sure.
>>
>> I keep looking at the code trying to figure this out but nothing
>> yet....I'll post back here if I figure it out.  Good luck!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt
>> Bartolome
>> Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 5:49 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: [Mapnik-users] GDAL raster rendering
>>
>> Hi,
>> I'm successfully rendering GeoTiffs using the GDAL datasource in gray
>> scale but would like to render them in color. gdalinfo outputs:
>>
>> Band 1 Block=12001x1 Type=Byte, ColorInterp=Gray
>>  Overviews: 3001x2001, 1501x1001, 751x501, 376x251, 188x126, 94x63
>>  Metadata:
>>    LAYER_TYPE=athematic
>> Band 2 Block=12001x1 Type=Byte, ColorInterp=Undefined
>>  Overviews: 3001x2001, 1501x1001, 751x501, 376x251, 188x126, 94x63
>>  Metadata:
>>    LAYER_TYPE=athematic
>> Band 3 Block=12001x1 Type=Byte, ColorInterp=Undefined
>>  Overviews: 3001x2001, 1501x1001, 751x501, 376x251, 188x126, 94x63
>>  Metadata:
>>    LAYER_TYPE=athematic
>>
>> All I've got in my style thus far is:
>>
>>  <Style name="raster">
>>    <Rule>
>>      <RasterSymbolizer>
>>      </RasterSymbolizer>
>>    </Rule>
>>  </Style>
>>
>> When viewing the geotiff in arcmap it sets Red, Green, Blue as
>> 120,123,100 automatically. Is that something read off the file that
>> gdal isn't seeing or is that something I set myself?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Matt
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