I also just verified that on Mapy.cz they are rendering both tiles at
opacity 1 with the basemap on the bottom and the hillshade on top.


- Beau

On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 4:55 PM, Beau Gunderson <[email protected]> wrote:
> FireBug tells me that your basemap opacity is at 0.7 while the
> hillshade above it is at 0.99--and it also seems that in Firefox the
> hillshade is on the bottom and that the basemap is on the top and you
> are effectively viewing the hillshade through the basemap!
>
> Was that the intent? I would assume that it would look best if the
> basemap were on the bottom at opacity 1 and the hillshade above it had
> opacity less than or equal to 1.
>
>
> - Beau
>
> On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 3:58 PM, Colin Marquardt <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
>> Hi guys,
>>
>> I just cannot live with the fact that "they" have awesome hillshading
>> in a slippy map and I cannot replicate it with Mapnik and OpenLayers:
>>
>> http://www.mapy.cz/#x=132471...@y=138964992@z...@mm=rtp
>>
>> (that area nicely shows the tile overlays).
>>
>> All *I* can manage with this kind of layering is
>> http://opentiles.com/cmarqu/relief.html?zoom=13&lat=50.9354&lon=14.20458&layers=BT
>> or
>> http://opentiles.com/cmarqu/relief_flipped.html?zoom=13&lat=50.9354&lon=14.20458&layers=BT
>> (layer order changed and opacities adapted.)
>>
>> When you toggle their "Stínování" layer, the brightness and crispness
>> of the map doesn't change much, it just gets hillshading.  My map is
>> very foggy in comparison. It's most likely not the thinner/smaller
>> fonts in my map, since the "Bad Schandau" there is as bold and black
>> as possible, but still washed out in the map due to the opacity. Their
>> text somehow stays at 100% black.
>>
>> The relief layer is different of course, but not so much IMO:
>> http://m4.mapserver.mapy.cz/relief-l/11_7e60000_8480000 vs.
>> http://opentiles.com/cmarqu/tiles_relief/12/2209/1372.png
>>
>> Does anybody have a guess as to what the crucial difference is?
>>
>> Doing the hillshading like this could have the advantage of a smaller
>> tile size overall, since you could reduce the number of colors needed
>> for the roads layer. With an all-in-one tile (roads and hillshading),
>> there are too many mixed colors which would get ugly banding if
>> color-reduced too much.
>>
>> (FWIW, my all-in-one tiles are at
>> http://opentiles.com/cmarqu/?zoom=13&lat=50.92308&lon=14.16252, done
>> with the process that Marcin described a while ago.)
>>
>> Cheers
>>  Colin
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