Peter Körner schrieb:
> 
> Am 14.06.2010 21:07, schrieb Stephan Knauss:
>> Peter Körner wrote:
>>> I don't think it's necessary to use a tileserver for this style. You
>>> could use the minutely updated postgis database to serve an openlayers
>>> vector layer.
>> Hm, it does not sound like a good idea to transfer 15.000 or more
>> elements to be processed with openlayers. I saw this approach before, it
>> required each user to download 1.5MB of POI-data.
>> A lot more compared to the few kb of the bitmap layer that can also be
>> cached.
> You're not supposed to transfer all POIs at once but only those in the 
> current viewport. In higher zoom levels you need to aggregate all POIs 
> that are close to each other (eg. >1000km  on a world-map) into a single 
> POI. You may vary this POIs' size with the number of single POIs aggregated.

Clustering seem difficult 
(http://docs.scipy.org/doc/scipy/reference/cluster.hierarchy.html#references) 
and I found
no PostGIS function for it. So it seem necessary to work with random and a 
limit.

>> Is there a specific reason why it's so difficult to get a custom
>> rendering besides the scripts needed not existing?
> It's that simple: we're no style hoster.

STOP. I can't see a different between the existing surveillance layer and the 
smoking layer.
Both have a lot of point objects and both are political maps.
Our "sponsor" the "Verein" is political active and support democracy processes, 
you can see this on the
Wahlprüfsteinen ( 
http://blog.wikimedia.de/2010/05/05/wahlpruefsteine-landtagswahl-nordrhein-westfalen-2010/
 ) and so on.

The old surveillance website 
(http://osm.vdska.de/?zoom=14&lat=52.40252&lon=9.7162&layers=B0TFF dangerous!) 
works with vector layer
and kills my browser very often. Now we have an working solution and should use 
it in other situations if we can't provide a better way.
The smoking layer is also IMO a use-case where OSM can show that it can more 
than other systems.

I see only two problems:
*I think the maps on toolserver should be political neutral. (green, yellow, 
red is it not.)
*The surveillance layer is relative stable. To compare the smoking layer will 
have a rapid change at beginning. So I have no idea to
run efficient tile caching or so.

Greetings Kolossos

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