On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 12:13 AM, Tim Alder
<[email protected]> wrote:
> I had in mind that the OSM default style file is published under CC0 and not
> CC-BY-SA[1]. If this is correct we should this license.
>
> For the OSM-Gadget and WIWOSM it should be a small effort to change the
> attribution.
>
> For three layers we have in OSM-Gadget 3 attributions and limited space,
> Parts of the attribution are translated by translate wiki. Our attributions
> are in the moment:
> "Map by OpenStreetMap (CC-BY-SA), Wikipedia (CC-BY-SA), WIWOSM"
>
>
> I would change it to
> "(c) OpenStreetMap contributors: license, Wikipedia (CC-BY-SA), WIWOSM"
>
> As mention here[2]. Would this be correct?

Unfortunately I can't tell you if that is correct, as I am not a
lawyer, and I also find the documentation somewhat confusing. I was
hoping osmf could put out some specific examples of attribution, but
so far haven't seen any.

But the above wording would correspond to how I would interpret the
legal FAQ. So unless we can get some advise from the wikimedia legal
team, I would suggest to just use that wording and should OSMF
complain be prepared to change it.

With respect to the license of tiles: This has been a somewhat
controversial debate what licenses "produced works" can actually be
under. Particularly can it be under CC-0. My understand would be it
can't as the ODbL requires the produced work to contain a notice that
it is produced from data under the ODbL. So I think, an attribution
license, like CC BY is the minimum the produced work can be under.

I am not sure if the license the style sheet is under plays any role
in what the tiles are licensed at. I think it can be anything, as has
been the case while data and tiles were CC BY-SA.

But I am not a lawyer, so I don't really know.

Kai

P.S. Otherwise, it sounds like no objections to re-importing. So as
soon as I can free enough space on the partition, I will begin the new
import. But it will likely be another couple of days (or more) before
it is complete.

>
> To make the right attribution easier, it would be nice if osm.org would have
> the attribution on the map like it want have it on external maps, because
> else I believe the ODBL-documentation in the OSM-Wiki is very complex and
> confusing.
>
> Greetings Kolossos
>
>
> [1]
> http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Licence-of-the-Mapnik-style-td5629768.html#a5629856
>
> [2]
> http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/OSM-legal-talk-Mapnik-attribution-td5724875.html#a5724876
>
> Am 15.09.2012 01:36, schrieb Kai Krueger:
>>
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> as you probably all know OpenStreetMap has been in the process of
>> changing its license for a while. Well, as of two days ago the process
>> was finally completed and the source data from OpenStreetMap.org is
>> now licensed under the OBbL 1.0 [1].
>>
>> For the moment the data in the osm_mapnik database on the toolserver
>> is still CC-BY-SA as the replication was suspend at the time of the
>> license change. However, in order to enable updates again, we have to
>> transition over to ODbL as well.
>>
>> For legal reasons, the recommended (by the OSMF) transition strategy
>> is to drop any existing databases and re-import them fresh from the
>> newly release planet file now licensed under ODbL.  To be able to
>> enable updates again, I would like to do that fairly soon.
>>
>> Apart from that, the attribution string needs to be slightly changed
>> for all projects that are using the OpenStreetMap data, once the
>> re-import has completed.
>>
>> With respect to tile licensing, I suggest we follow the example of
>> osm's tileserver. While the underlying data is licensed ODbL, the
>> rendered tiles would be licensed under CC BY-SA 2.0
>>
>> Could everyone who uses the OSM database on toolserver therefore
>> please check if there are any issues with transitioning to ODbL and
>> prepare for the change of attribution?
>>
>> Given that the OpenStreetMap is used in Wikipedia through the
>> OSM-gadget, WMA and WIWOSM, does the wikimedia legal team have any
>> suggestions or objections to the change?
>>
>>
>> I'll keep you posted.
>>
>> Kai
>>
>>
>> [1] http://opendatacommons.org/licenses/odbl/1.0/
>>
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