Let's stick to the mailing list!

If you want to keep up with the rest of the discussion, it would be
beneficial to subscribe to the list. With this thread I think we can
continue as is.

Let's continue. We need to get
- opinions/information about relevant bibliographic metadata schemes
- whatever the mapwarper stores with a rectified map

Here are the map attributes from MapWarper:
Title
Description
Tags
Subject area
Metadata Unique iD
Source / Bibliographic Ref URL
Call Number
Publisher
Place of Publication
Author(s)
Date Depicted
Published Date
Reprint Date
Scale
Metadata Projection
Metadata Location: lat, lon

Here's what Zotero offers:

*Zotero label**Zotero fieldname**CSL fieldname*Scalescale*none*Language
language*none*Short TitleshortTitle*none*Library CataloglibraryCatalog*none*
Rightsrights*none*ISBNISBNISBNURLurlURLAbstractabstractNoteabstractAccessed
accessDateaccessedArchivearchivearchiveLoc. in ArchivearchiveLocation
archive_locationCall NumbercallNumbercall-numberSeries TitleseriesTitle
collection-titleEditioneditioneditionPlaceplaceevent-place *and*
publisher-placeTypemapTypegenreDatedateissuedExtraextranotePublisher
publisherpublisherTitletitletitle
Here's my summary of fields from these 2 sources that are not in the
Artwork template:
Map type
Tags
Subject area/Event place
Metadata unique ID
Call number = accession number?
Publisher
Place of publication
Date of publication = date?
Date depicted
Reprint date
Scale
Metadata projection
Metadata location: lat + lon
Language
Library Catalogue
ISBN
URL
Accessed
Series title
Edition

Cheers,
Susanna


2013/5/30 Tim Alder <[email protected]>

> Thanks Jarek to remember the old KML-overlay solution (A project of
> User:Dschwen and me from 2007). The KML-solution had very limited features
> to make complex transformation to map an historical map on the actual
> world, but we can use the principle to provide via a template a link to a
> tool that use data from an Wiki subpage.
>
> With the KML-solution we could only store lat, lon, 2 values for scaling
> the map and rotation angle. Now I would store a list of matching points
> with x,y in pixel of the map and lat,lon. Would this be ok for Maps-wraper?
> (I'm not an expert in this area.)
>
> Like Maarten Dammers I want to make a first rapid hack as a base for the
> final solution.
>
> If we know the parameter definition I could hack a template let's say
> "overlay2" that opens the right page in Maps-wraper's map viewer[1]. For
> this it would be nice if Maps-wraper could work with Commons imagenames as
> identifier instead of numbers. Would these be possible?
>
> The Maps-wraper should have on the other side an export page for the
> matching parameters so that a user can store it on commons at a subpage.
>
> The advantage of the KML-solution was that we don't need any caching
> storage. Now the transformations cost a lot of cpu-time so we need a
> caching of the tiles at maps-wraper.
>
> Greetings Tim Alder
>
> P.S: I think we should organize the communication so that every mail is
> going directly to everone or we should use only the maps-l mailing list[2].
> So it is confusing. I would prefer the mailing list but don't want to loose
> anyone how is interested. Sussana should decide.
>
>
> [1] 
> http://maps-warper.instance-**proxy.wmflabs.org/maps/1<http://maps-warper.instance-proxy.wmflabs.org/maps/1>
> [2] 
> https://lists.wikimedia.org/**mailman/listinfo/maps-l<https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/maps-l>
>
>>
>> 2013/5/30 Tuszynski, Jaroslaw W. <[email protected]
>> <mailto:JAROSLAW.W.TUSZYNSKI@**saic.com <[email protected]>>>
>>
>>     Hi all,____
>>
>>     __ __
>>
>>
>>     A standard, way of geolocating maps involves use of subpages with
>>     KML code. See for example
>>     
>> http://commons.wikimedia.org/**wiki/File:Dayton,_Indiana_**1878.png<http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Dayton,_Indiana_1878.png>and
>>     http://commons.wikimedia.org/**wiki/File:Dayton,_Indiana_**
>> 1878.png/overlay.kml<http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Dayton,_Indiana_1878.png/overlay.kml>
>>     . There was not a whole lot of people creating those KML’s and the
>>     software often does not like the subpages of files, but the
>>     infrastructure is there ready to use. If there was more interest in
>>     using them we could discuss some improvements to the system. We
>>     could also streamline kml production based on available data. Most
>>     current files are created using North/South/East/West edges and
>>     possible rotation. It might be more convenient to use coordinates of
>>     4 corners, which is a format also supported by KML. ____
>>
>>     __ __
>>
>>     Another possibility would be to use Template:GeoPolygon, or both. ____
>>
>>     __ __
>>
>>
>>     Are there any other fields specific to maps that are not
>>     template:Artwork? We could always upload a few sample images by hand
>>     (or pick existing ones) and ask community for help on formatting
>>     metadata, which would be than used as a template (using non
>>     Wikipedia meaning of the word) for the other uploads. That way we
>>     can easily see what are the possible improvements to Commons
>>     templates (using Wikipedia meaning of the word).____
>>
>>     __ __
>>
>>
>>     We could also create a specialized template for maps, which could be
>>     just extension of Artwork template. But it would be the best to
>>     avoid that if not necessary. Rarely used templates tend to get
>>     little attention and maintenance. ____
>>
>>     __ __
>>
>>     Jarek T.____
>>
>>     User:jarekt____
>>
>>
>


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