Thank you everyone who participated!  A few ideas discussed, please add if
i missed anything:

* Get more involvement with OSM community mailing lists
* Use "osm" instead of "osm-intl" layer as the base, but bring in the
street names
* Evaluate migration of WIWOSM's frontend to Simon's code, with the
following merge in into Kartographer extension
* Evaluate migration of WIWOSM database to production servers
* Use Wikiminiatlas's label placing logic in Kartographer
* Wait until Mapnik hstore support for multi-lingual maps
* Would love to get a wiki-specific map design

Here's a copy of the chat we had running - I cleaned it up a bit. This is
mostly for us to remember the posted links.

### Jo Hannes
WIWOSM

### Max Semenik
https://github.com/aiomaster/WIWOSM ?

### Jo Hannes
Do you use wikidata tags on the OSM objects?

### Blake Girardot
Here are two relevant OSM wiki links, not sure how up to date they are,
just for background or information.
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WIWOSM

### Yuri Astrakhan
http://vem.wmflabs.org/wiki/Main_Page

### Blake Girardot
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Collaboration_with_Wikipedia
Is there outreach to the OSM email lists?

### Yuri Astrakhan
https://github.com/kartotherian/osm-bright.tm2source

### Max Semenik
https://github.com/kartotherian/osm-bright.tm2source/blob/master/data.yml#L462

### Blake Girardot
Yes, that is true
We had long discussion about it in May
on Tagging list
I think most are open to the idea

### Max Semenik
And I was one of bottery proponents in it:)

### Jo Hannes
I had already started with that...

### Blake Girardot
I just see very little mention of wiwosm at all, announcments in 2012, but
not much since.

### Jo Hannes
adding streets and where their names come from
yes, better to get it right for all languages
I will, but don't want to interrupt the flow of the conversation. Mostly
listening in. Very interestting

### Yuri Astrakhan
https://maps.wikimedia.org/?s=osm

### Daniel Schwen
Sounds like a compromise worth pursuing

### Yuri Astrakhan
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Kartographer

### Blake Girardot
Thank you very much, it was very interesting

### Yuri Astrakhan
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_Diskussion:Kartenwerkstatt/Positionskarten#.3Cmap.3E_tag_for_Wikipedia

### Blake Girardot
My only suggestion is more outreach on the OSM lists for collaboration.
osm-talk, osm-tagging or osm-dev, might find more help etc. maybe even the
mapbox people. I apologize if you already have and I have just missed it, I
am not on osm-dev

### Daniel Schwen
Good point about the two use cases
the popup will have to be general
but the embedded map must be *very* customizable

### Blake Girardot
I see.
interesting
700k wikipedia tags current v. 40k wiki data in OSM according to taginfo
oh wow, me too
the josm plugin sounds great

### Daniel Schwen
Ok, guys, I have to go! Interesting to see this gaining momentum. I will
follow this, keep me in the loop.

### Blake Girardot
Yes we do

### Jo Hannes
cu later
oh, I was saying bye to Daniel
aware of the potential for privacy ivnasion

### Blake Girardot
Thank you very much everyone


On Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 5:50 AM, Yuri Astrakhan <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Update:  If you want to discuss maps, please join this hangout
> https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/wikimedia.org/yastrakhan
>
> Monday, December 21,  19:00 UTC / 2:00pm EST / 11:00 am Pacific
>
> If you have any problems connecting, or if you want to talk at a different
> time, email me directly at [email protected]
>
> On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 10:53 PM, Yuri Astrakhan <[email protected]
> > wrote:
>
>> Anyone who wants to participate in this discussion is welcome to join the
>> hangout.
>>
>> How about next Monday, December 21,  19:00 UTC / 2:00pm EST / 11:00 am
>> Pacific
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 10:14 PM, Tim Alder <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Yuri,
>>> if you look on the updated version of the map from Simon[1]
>>> you can see that we use now text labels for Wikipedia entries.
>>>
>>> This is a design element from the WikiMiniAtlas and I think it has an
>>> positiv effect for the user to set the visual focus on Wikipedia
>>> content. It's also the aim to look different that google maps and it's a
>>> quick (and dirty) way to multilingual maps. ;-)
>>>
>>> The problem we have now is, that we have on zommlevels that are on
>>> Country level tons of duplications because we have the Wikipedia-label
>>> and the Text from OSM background. If we only switch to a background
>>> style I would miss useful informations from OSM like street names.
>>> So it would be interesting to discuse if we could get an map where
>>> objects with an Wikipedia/Wikidata tag are transparent. We can also talk
>>> about if we can get a vector tiles layer with these objects from my
>>> database to use the geojson tiles in Leaflet...
>>> I also see a chance that labels are becoming more consitant during
>>> panning and zooming in.
>>>
>>> So perhaps it would be possible if you could prepair an hangout to talk
>>> about this and find a date for it via doodle or so. Europes evening
>>> hours would be fine for me, but it's christmas time and the people are
>>> busy.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Tim alias Kolossos
>>>
>>> [1]
>>> https://tools.wmflabs.org/wiwosm/osm-gadget-leaflet/#/?lang=en&article=London
>>>
>>
>>
>
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