Hi Seth,

i tried all MSVC-Versions of gisinternals and i sure enough installed
all VC-Runtimes from
MS as well (2010 - 2022) in x86 & x64, - all didn't change a thing.
All stable and even the unstable development releases of gisinternals
are using a v14 libpq.dll
while the one from OSGeo4W that solved the problem is a v16,  - most
probably unrelated to
the core problem, - most probably compiled against an older version of
uacrtbase.dll.
I wrote an e-mail to gisinternals this morning, maybe someone there has
a look at it.

BR
Stefan H.


Am 12.06.2024 um 09:31 schrieb Seth G:
Hi,

Glad you got it working!

What version of the GIS Internal releases were you using? Each one uses 
different MSVC runtime libraries.
For example, the 1930 in the download 
release-1930-x64-gdal-3-8-5-mapserver-8-0-1.zip indicates MSVC 2022.
There is a full list at https://www.gisinternals.com/sdk.php.

The server will need to have the corresponding "Microsoft Visual C++ 
Redistributable" installed, which includes uacrtbase.dll (I thought you could have 
several of these though). These can be downloaded from 
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/cpp/windows/latest-supported-vc-redist?view=msvc-170

These may or may not already be installed on your Windows Server, you can check 
with the following command:

     wmic product where "name like 'Microsoft Visual C++%'" get name,version

Your server seems to be Windows 2022, which should include MSVC 2022 and work 
with any of the GISInternals 1930 releases, so if you are already using these 
then it could be a different issue. The GISInternals use pgsql - REL_14_0 
rather than 16.

Seth

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On Tue, Jun 11, 2024, at 5:21 PM, Jaques Tati via MapServer-users wrote:
Hi,

well, that was a journey.
I was able to grap a .dmp-file created by a mapserver-crash (not so easy
cause it gets
deleted very fast automatically by windows) and windbg revealed, that
the crash
happens in the libpq.dll of the MapServer-Distribution of gisinternals,
caused by
the uacrtbase.dll.
Microsoft claims, that regardless of how many uacrtbase.dll's there are
at different locations
on your machine, only the OS-Version somewhere in the windows-directory
is used.
Since i couldn't change this dll i searched for another version of the
libpq.dll and after testing many,
the libpq.dll from the current OSGeo4W - QGis-Install-Directory solves
the problem
(just replace the orginal with the OSGeo4W-Version).
After copying the file the clustered and all other postgis layers worked
again as
expected.
It seems to be dependend on the version of the uacrtbase.dll on your system.
The version on our windows server is 10.0.20348.2461 and it works with
libpq.dll v16.2.

BR
Stefan

Am 11.06.2024 um 10:14 schrieb Jaques Tati via MapServer-users:
Hi Seth,

layer has an EXTEND (ensured this after reading the results of a search
through this mailing list).
I also did a mapserver 8 setup with a postgis layer and the same layer
definition on my private laptop
also with a postgis source and it works flawless. - but it uses IIS as
webserver.
I wrote, that according to logging the data comes back from the
postgreSQL source and when i do
comment out the CLUSTER the data is correctly displayed.
But, i will try to test your idea about the shapefile source, will come
back then.

thanks anyway and BR
Stefan

Am 11.06.2024 um 09:51 schrieb Seth G:
Hi,

A couple of things to try to narrow down the issue:

1. If you are able to export the PostGIS layer to a shapefile, then
you can change the DATA of the layer and see if there is still a crash.
2. Is there an EXTENT set on the layer? I ran into an issue using MS
SQL [1] and clustering. Try adding one manually.

Seth


[1] https://github.com/MapServer/MapServer/pull/6278

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On Tue, Jun 11, 2024, at 9:31 AM, Jaques Tati via MapServer-users wrote:
Hi There,

in our application we're upgrading our v7.6 MapServer to v8.01.
Everything seems to work good so far but we have one layer that uses
Clustering of points
and whenever this layer should be displayed MapServer 8 crashes
reproducably.

This layer works flawless in v7.6 and clustering is setup exactly from
the book.
When i comment clustering out, the layer is displayed, so all other
style features do work.
Datasource is a PostGIS layer, webserver is Apache 2.4.59.

Looking at the debug output, the data comes back as expected from the
database,
even clustering is logged and no error in the MapServer-Logfile.
The crash is reported in Windows Application-Eventlog with only cryptic
reasons that do
not really result in any valid answers when googling.
..there is a word "StackHash" included that might point to DEP
(DataExecutionPrevention)
of Windows, - but since all other layers do work with the MapServer-Exe
it would be hard
to understand why windows does prevent the output of clustered layers.

We're using Windows Server 2022 21H2 Datacenter Edition, 8 CPU 32GB
RAM.

Anyone heard of this crude behaviour, I'm running out of ideas?

Thanks in advance for any hint

SH
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