Lots of interesting ideas floating around, and good suggestions for moving forward. I will weigh in with my suggestions, which you can take as much salt as you need to make palatable:

*** Foundation Name ***

Mapserver may be the first open source project in the door here, but painting its name in big letters over the lintel will discourage others from joining. I think that the Apache example is actually a *bad* one to follow, since I personally found their naming system fairly confusing for quite a while ("This is apache? I thought it was a web server? So is this supposed to integrate with the web server?").

Many good suggestions on a neutral foundation name have floated by, but my favourite is and remains "Maptools Foundation" using maptools.org as a site. For most people, the only obvious connections of maptools.org with DM Solutions is the graphical look'n'feel on the web site, and that is easily enough stripped away and made neutral. "Maptools" is short, practical sounding, it is not buzz wordy, geospatial-this-and-that, and using it amalgamates a good central site into the foundation right away.

*** Product Names ***

As many others have said, let "Mapserver" be "Mapserver". Let the product-formerly-known-as-mapguide be something else. You are not telling them how to name their product, you are just telling them that they cannot directly appropriate the Mapserver name. I imagine they would feel the same way if we wanted to start calling Mapserver "MapGuide Enterprise".

This will be no fun for DM or Autodesk, since it involves walking back a bunch of announcements, but perhaps that is the price of rushing out the door so quickly. From what I have read of the comments, the naming issue is the central one, since little else has been decided, and it would certainly make the community as a whole less restive (I hope).

*** Governance ***

It is great that governance will be discussed in the open, and that Frank is already putting together some straw men for us to burn (wooo, burning man!). I fear that consensus will be practically impossible to achieve, and a command decision will have to be made. At the end of the day, I suppose the only decision making agents are UMN and Autodesk, since they are the ones actually donating code to the organization that will be run by the governance model. If they decline to donate their code, governance becomes a moot point. However, any governance model should be appealing enough that other future organizations will feel interested in donating code. Which leads to...

*** PostGIS and uDig ***

Just to pre-empt some questions, we have no plans to move PostGIS or uDig into the Foundation in the near or middle term. We really would have to see the Foundation succeeding and as a big boost over our current structure in terms of business development in order to move our large projects there, and that will take quite some time -- there needs to be a solid business case to do so. There are some other smaller projects (IMSEMU) which we will be interested in bringing into the Foundation once things solidify a bit.

Paul

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