Hi Daniel,

I think the stretching behaviour (non square pixels) is specific to WMS and won't happen in Mapserver CGI mode.

For WMS, the SIZE and EXTENT of the MAP file don't matter, since they are specified in the request.

The easiest is to test with a square image. So eg 400 x 400 pixels.

Then make sure that MAXX-MINX equals MAXY-MINY (BBOX=MINX,MINY,MAXX,MAXY).

Best regards,
Bart

Daniel Goetz wrote:

Hi Bart,

thank you for your reply.
But the extent in the mapfile is the same as the BBOX-values in the WMS-request. And the 
SIZE in the MAP-object of the mapfile is the same as in WIDTH+HEIGHT in the WMS-request. 
And nevertheless the two "reprojected" maps differ in appearance (distortion).

But you are right. I should check that the BBOX and the WIDTH/HEIGHT-values 
have the same proportion. Do I also have to check wheter SIZE and EXTENT in the 
MAP-object have the same proportions as well? And how can I measure the 
distance between the vertices of my EXTENT and the distance between the 
vertices of my BBOX? Any suggestion?

Thank you for your help and hopefully your further ideas. Thank you.


regards


Daniel


-------- Original-Nachricht --------
Datum: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 10:26:38 +0200
Von: "Bart van den Eijnden (OSGIS)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
An: Daniel Goetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Betreff: Re: [UMN_MAPSERVER-USERS] WMS and SRS

Hi Daniel,

please remember that if the ratio of your bbox and the ratio of your width versus height in pixels, differs, the map will be stretched. That could explain some of the behaviour. You need to make sure that the values in your WMS request have the same ratio. I don't know if this is the problem, but it could be a cause.

Proj.4 has a utility to reproject. The proj utilities also come with MS4W. See also:

http://proj.maptools.org/man_cs2cs.html

Best regards,
Bart

Daniel Goetz wrote:

Hi,

thank you Frank, Trond and Ed for your help. I tried to use reporjected
coordinates as BBOX-values in my "new" WMS-GetMap-request (SRS=WPSG:4326)
and it works now. I got the new reprojected coordinates out of the
GetCapabilities document (I took them out of the LatLonBoundingBox paragraph in 
the
GetCapabilities document):
<Layer queryable="1" opaque="0" cascaded="0">
      <Name>VIEW_RWG_TBS</Name>
      <Title>RWG_TM_NR</Title>
      <SRS>EPSG:31468</SRS>
      <SRS>EPSG:4326</SRS>
      <LatLonBoundingBox minx="10.9905" miny="49.3319" maxx="11.2852"
maxy="49.5441" />
      <BoundingBox SRS="EPSG:31468"
                  minx="4.42695e+006" miny="5.46647e+006"
maxx="4.44806e+006" maxy="5.48982e+006" />
      <Style>
        <Name>default</Name>
        <Title>default</Title>
        <LegendURL width="20" height="10">
           <Format>image/png</Format>
           <OnlineResource xmlns:xlink="http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink";
xlink:type="simple"
xlink:href="http://10.65.112.50/cgi-bin/mapserv.exe?map=/ms4w/apache/htdocs/WMS/WMS_BRWK.map&version=1.1.1&service=WMS&request=GetLegendGraphic&layer=VIEW_RWG_TBS&format=image/png"/>
        </LegendURL>
      </Style>
  </Layer>


But I have two further questions:

When I do a WMS-GetMap-request in the "new" SRS (EPSG:4326) the map
maserver sends back does not vary form the map mapserver generates when sending
a GetMap-request in the "original" SRS (EPSG:31468). I mean there is no
deformation/distortion noticeable. But when I do a "normal" mapserver
mode=browse-request in my simple pan and zoom template and tell mapserver to
reproject the data in EPSG:4326 (I do that by putting the PROJECTION-object in
the MAP-object of the .map-file to "init=epsg:4326" while the
PROJECTION-objects in the LAYER-objects are still in the "origninal" 
"init=epsg:31468"
projection. Of course I  change the EXTENT-parameters in the .map-file too. Am
I doing right?) the returned map looks different >from the map genereated
using the "original" projection. I mean that the reprojected map using
mode=browse looks deformed/distorted compared to the "original" not reprojected
map.
The question is now: Why do the two maps (the reprojected one I get from
the WMS-GetMap-request and the reprojected map I get by a mode=browse
request) differ in their appearence (distortion) although I tell mapserver in
both cases to reproject the map to "epsg:4326"?
The secoond question is: As mentioned I got the "new" reprojeted
coordinates for BBOX-values out of the GetCapabilities document. But is there a
program that could do coordinate transformation for me, so that I am able to
transform "epsg:31468" coordinates to "epsg:4326" coordinates?
OK, that's it. Thak you again for your helpful hints. And would be very
nice of you if you could help me further on with my problems/questions
elucidated in this email. Thank you so much.
regards

Daniel


-------- Original-Nachricht --------
Datum: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 09:22:21 -0400
Von: Ed McNierney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
An: [email protected]
Betreff: Re: [UMN_MAPSERVER-USERS] WMS and SRS



Daniel -

I think Frank's theory is likely to be correct, and that there is a
problem with the BBOX coordinates used in your new request.  It sounds
like the
changes you made are fine, although I think it is not necessary to add
all
supported SRS systems to the metadata for each layer - just the
MAP-level
metadata should be all you need to do.

Can you post the SRS= and BBOX= parameters you are using in your
original
epsg:31468 request and in the new epsg:4326 requests?

        - Ed

Ed McNierney
President and Chief Mapmaker
TopoZone.com / Maps a la carte, Inc.
73 Princeton Street, Suite 305
North Chelmsford, MA  01863
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(978) 251-4242
-----Original Message-----
From: UMN MapServer Users List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Daniel Goetz
Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 3:05 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [UMN_MAPSERVER-USERS] WMS and SRS

Hi coummunity,

I built up a littel WMS-server with umn-mapserver (local installation;
ms4w 2.1). The "original" projection of the single Layers is alway
epsg:31468
(these are cartesian Gauß-Krüger-coordiantes). So I set the
PORJECTION-object of each LAYER and in the MAP-object to
"init=epsg:31468". In the
METADATA of the MAP-object as well as in the single LAYER-objects I
defined
"wms_srs" as "EPSG:31468" as well. For testing purpose I did some
WMS-GetMap-Requests with "SRS=EPSG:31468" and everything went fine.

But now I want to make my WMS-service more interchangeable, so I want to
define some more SRSs in that the WMS should be able to be displayed. I
want
to make it possible to "transform" (don't know the exact word in
english)
the WMS from its original Projection to another SRS (e.g. WGS 84;
EPSG:4326). In my opinion this should be possible by adding another
epsg-code to the
METADATA. So my METADATA (both in the MAP and in the LAYERs-objects)
look
like this: "wms_srs" "EPSG:31468 EPSG:4326".

But now every time I change the SRS block in my WMS-GetMap-request from
"SRS=EPSG:31468" to "SRS=EPSG:4326" mapserver returns a blank image. I
even
tried to set the BBOX to latlon-coordinates when using "SRS=EPSG:4326"
but
even this failed. I also testes other SRSs (both geographic ones and
real
projections) but with no success.

Could anybody please give me some help or hints what to do and what went
wrong and why did this happen? I would be very glad and thankful. Thank
you
so much.


regards


Daniel


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