Viktor,

 

Thank you for your help.  I got a road layer to work, and it will be so much better than the free hand drawing.

 

As you, and everyone else, can tell, I don’t do GIS for a living.  I work with nonprofit kid’s camps in helping them plan for the future, and we need maps to view the site as a whole.  We were paying an architect a lot of money to prepare maps, but funding is tight in the nonprofit kid’s camp world, so we are trying to prepare basic maps for discussion purposes in-house.  So, I’m plugging away at making reasonable maps.

 

Pam

 

Pam Lardear

Run River Enterprises

http://www.runriver.net

315-559-0526

"Helping you find your Way"

 

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 12:57 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [Maptitude] GIS 101

 


Pam,

A general rule of thumb, when creating geographic layers is to keep geometry types on separate layers. Specifically, in the world of GIS there are primarily three geometry types:
1. Points
2. Lines
3 Polygons (Areas)

So in your case, it sounds like you are trying or wanting to combine two different geometry types: Roads (Lines) and Buildings (Areas or Points).  This is discouraged in the world of GIS and perhaps is a built in limitation in Maptitude. As I see it you have two possible solutions:

1. Create two separate geographic layers: one for your roads layer or a line layer and one for your building layers or an area or a point layer. This method will also make it easier to set up your attribute table, if you treated the two features separately.

2. The second solution would only work if your intention is to present your buildings as areas or foot prints. In this case you would create one geographic layer as a line feature. Then digitize in all your roads and buildings as lines only. The problem with this method is that it will be extremely difficult to efficiently build an attribute table (maybe using generic fields that would be suitable for roads and building) not to mention the nightmare you'll have auto-labeling your buildings.

I highly recommend option 1 and if you are planning of having building represented as points then this is your only option, even if there is a work around I would highly discourage it.

As for the attributes, you'll need to design a database scheme (sounds fancier than it really is), a scheme simply represents the field names and data types (numbers, text, etc...), among other things, you want associated to the information you are collecting. (e.g. road name, access type, pavement, comments, building name, building type, building use, Square Feet, etc...). The scheme is exceptionally helpful if you plan on linking your data to other databases. Either way, this will be more involved than what I outlined here but hopefully it helped shed a little light on your problem.

Warmest regards,

Viktor Keenan de la Hoz - Senior GIS Technician
City of Phoenix - Street Transportation Department
Design and Construction Management Division


 

Map Boy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

02/08/2005 09:58 AM
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These are very simple questions that are clearly answered in the begining pages of the Maptitude manual.  There you will also find quick tutorials to do yourself, which many users have found extremely helpful.
 
Obviously you use a line layer for creation of line features such as streets or railroads.  An area layer would be used for...areas, and points for points.  The attribute fields can be added at any time, but you can start adding attribute fields after you click on "file" "New".  Just follow the prompts or click on the appropriate dialog box.
 
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Pam Lardear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
Hi Peter,

Thanks for your response; I'm not quite getting it though.

When I create a new geographic layer, on which I want to draw roads and
buildings, what kind of layer do I use, and what do I do for the attributes?

It would be great help to be able to figure this out.

Pam



Pam Lardear
Run River Enterprises
http://www.runriver.net
315-559-0526
"Helping you find your Way"


-----Original Message-----
From: Peter H. Van Demark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 11:03 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Maptitude] freehand line size


Pam:

So far no one has responded to you, so I will try to answer your question:

>I am trying to draw in roads using the freehand line tool, and am having
>tr! ouble with the size.  I know there s a setting for changing the size of
>freehand items when page size changes, but that does not seem to have any
>effect.  I have a number of freehand boxes (buildings) which change sizes
>when I zoom in and out, so the relative size to the map stays in
>proportion.  But the roads seem to stay constant, so when I zoom out the
>road are disproportionately large.  What can I do to make all of my
>freehand items stay in proportion when I zoom in and out?

First, features such as roads and buildings are normally created and edited
in geographic files, not as freehand items. Use the File-New command to
create a new line or area geographic file, then use the Tools-Map
Editing-Toolbox command to open the Map Editing toolbox to create and edit
road lines or building areas.

Second, buildings are two-dimensional so as you zoom in or out they should
get larger or ! smaller. Roads are one-dimensional so they should get longer
or shorter, but not wider. The width is controlled by the style of the
layer; choose Map-Layers, highlight the layer, and click Style to change
the style of a layer.

So, if you use geographic files to add road or building layers to your map,
I think you will get better results.

Peter

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