On 06/Dec/11 21:45, Scott Kitterman wrote:
> On 12/06/2011 03:38 PM, Murray S. Kucherawy wrote:
>> For draft-ietf-marf-spf-reporting: Does the working group feel this
>> work is useful to pursue?  If not, we will suggest it be added to the
>> proposed charter for SPFBIS or a future version of it.

I'm not clear on what is the intersection MARF ∩ SPFBIS, but if it is
consistent enough the move can be done even in case we consider this
work to be useful to pursue.

> I think it has value.  I haven't updated the draft because it didn't
> seem fruitful.  Things I'm waiting for:
> 
> draft-ietf-marf-authfailure-report: Waiting for the final post-last call
> draft - since I'm waiting on the SPFbis situation to clarify a bit, my
> intent was to wait until this draft was also ~final so I'd have a stable
> base  to work from.

Since the other WG seems to be going to last longer than this, waiting
there may be more consistent.

> SPFbis:  I'm waiting for the charter discussion to settle out so that I
> know how to deal with the downref issue to RFC 4408.  If the charter
> lands the way I think it will, I think allowing a downref is justifiable.

Some coordination can be fruitful here.  For example, if there will be
methods to report certain circumstances to the domain owners, then
some features of SPF that are only used for monitoring those
circumstances could be safely deprecated.  Contribution to such
monitoring is spontaneous and consenting in either case, but
decoupling it from SPF checking may remove an impediment toward
broader adoption.

jm2c
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