Based on discussion with the authors, the -05 version of this draft resolves the
issues raised in the Gen-ART review of the -04 version.  An important element of
the approach taken to issue [1] has been to explain why the security 
requirements
for redaction are significantly weaker than the strength of the secure hashes
that are suggested by the draft.

Thanks,
--David

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Black, David
> Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 9:44 PM
> To: [email protected]; Murray S. Kucherawy; [email protected]; 
> [email protected]
> Cc: Black, David; [email protected]; [email protected]
> Subject: Gen-ART review of draft-ietf-marf-redaction-04
> 
> I am the assigned Gen-ART reviewer for this draft. For background on Gen-ART, 
> please
> see the FAQ at <http://wiki.tools.ietf.org/area/gen/trac/wiki/GenArtfaq>.
> 
> Please resolve these comments along with any other Last Call comments you may 
> receive.
> 
> Document: draft-ietf-marf-redaction-04
> Reviewer: David L. Black
> Review Date: January 10, 2012
> IETF LC End Date: January 18, 2011
> IESG Telechat Date: January 19, 2011
> 
> Summary: This draft is on the right track but has open issues, described in 
> the review.
> 
> This draft specifies a method for redacting information from email abuse 
> reports
> (e.g., hiding the local part [user] of an email address), while still allowing
> correlation of the redacted information across related abuse reports from the 
> same
> source. The draft is short, clear, and well written.
> 
> There are two open issues:
> 
> [1] The first open issue is the absence of security guidance to ensure that 
> this
> redaction technique effectively hides the redacted information.  The redaction
> technique is to concatenate a secret string (called the "redaction key") to 
> the
> information to be redacted, apply "any hashing/digest algorithm", convert the 
> output
> to base64 and use that base64 string to replace the redacted information.
> 
> There are two important ways in which this technique could fail to 
> effectively hide
> the redacted information:
>       - The secret string may inject insufficient entropy.
>       - The hashing/digest algorithm may be weak.
> 
> To take an extreme example, if the secret string ("redaction key") consists 
> of a
> single ASCII character, and a short email local part is being redacted, then 
> the
> output is highly vulnerable to dictionary and brute force attacks because 
> only 6 bits
> of entropy are added (the result may look secure, but it's not).  Beyond this 
> extreme
> example, this is a potentially real concern - e.g., applying the rule of 
> thumb that
> ASCII text contains 4-5 bits of entropy per character, the example in 
> Appendix A
> uses a "redaction key" of "potatoes" that injects at most 40 bits of entropy -
> is that sufficient for email redaction purposes?
> 
> To take a silly example, if a CRC is used as the hash with that sort of short 
> input,
> the result is not particularly difficult to invert.
> 
> I suggest a couple of changes:
> 1) Change "any hashing/digest algorithm" to require use of a secure hash, and
>       explain what is meant by "secure hash" in the security considerations 
> section.
> 2) Require a minimum length of the "redaction key" string, and strongly 
> suggest
>       (SHOULD) that it be randomly generated (e.g., by running sufficient 
> output
>       of an entropy-rich random number generator through a base64 converter).
> 
> For the latter change, figure out the amount of entropy that should be used
> for redaction - the recommended string length will be larger because printable
> ASCII is not entropy-dense (at best it's good for 6 bits of entropy in each
> 8-bit character, and human-written text such as this message has significantly
> less).
> 
> From a pure security perspective, use of HMAC with specified secure hashes
> (SHA2-family) and an approach of hashing the "redaction key" down to a binary
> key for HMAC would be a stronger approach. I suggest that authors consider
> approach, but  there may be practical usage concerns that suggest not 
> adopting it.
> 
> [2] The second open issue is absence of security considerations for the 
> redaction
> key.  The security considerations section needs to caution that the redaction 
> key
> is a secret key that must be managed and protected as a secret key.  
> Disclosure
> of a redaction key removes the redaction from all reports that used that key.
> As part of this, guidance should be provided on when and how to change the
> redaction key in order to limit the effects of loss of secrecy for a single
> redaction key.
> 
> Editorial Nit: I believe that "anonymization" is a better description of what
> this draft is doing (as opposed to "redaction"), particularly as the result is
> intended to be correlatable via string match across reports from the same 
> source.
> 
> idnits 2.12.13 didn't find any nits.
> 
> Thanks,
> --David
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