Hiya,

As these are all comments you can continue to leave 'em
however you like:-)

On 04/25/2012 01:06 AM, Murray S. Kucherawy wrote:
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>> From: Stephen Farrell [mailto:[email protected]]
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>> Subject: Stephen Farrell's No Objection on draft-ietf-marf-as-14: (with
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>> Just a bunch of nitty comments. Feel free to take 'em or leave 'em.
> 
> Leaving 'em, except:
> 
>> 5.1 (2) - I think you mean that "they think will" pass SPF/DKIM checks,
>> since they can't be sure
> 
> OK.
> 
>> 5.2 (1) - "the receiver" is a bit ambiguous in the 1st sentence, maybe
>> s/the receiver/the report receiver/? (Or if handling is expensive for
>> both, then maybe say that.)
> 
> OK (the former).
> 
>> 5.5 (1) - is "bulk senders" at the end here ambiguous? I read it as
>> referring to the sender of the message(s) that triggered the report.
> 
> Right, but I'm fumbling on wording to clarify.  Is "bulk email senders" 
> enough (as different to "bulk report senders")?

Well, sometimes just using more words works, e.g. maybe "the sender(s)
of the messages that triggered the reports" (but I didn't look back
for context so that might be useless;-)

> 
>> 6 - what is a "smaller" AS or use-case? Do you mean fewer people will
>> do this or that its simpler?
> 
> As in this section (the statement) has less to say than the sections above 
> that talk about the "abuse" feedback report type.
> 
>> 6 - point (3), is the "MUST be constructed" there right? If everything
>> needed to satisfy this MUST is later in point 3, then you could say
>> "MUST be done as stated below" - as is, this looks like there's
>> something else needed to satisfy the MUST but you don't say what.
> 
> The first MUST sets the overall goal.  Since it is not itself normative, it 
> could change to "needs to", since the normative stuff later is what really 
> lays it out.
> 
>> 8.3 - this is a little terse, maybe point back at those recommendations
>> or say a bit more?
> 
> Sure (the reference).
> 
>> 8.4 - might be better to say "larger volumes or higher frequency"
> 
> OK.
> 
>> 8.5 - I guess this means that report receivers ought not react to
>> missing reports as if something was wrong. Not sure if that's worth
>> noting explicitly or not.
> 
> How would you react to a missing report?

Complain to the waiter? :-)

Or throw away the next rx'd because its not last-seq+1 or
whatever). Sell the information as to who'd doing what based on
the nodes that think they're running this protocol?


S


> 
> -MSK
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