(this thread was originaly from maria-developpers)
The mariadb.com/.org distinction is not really clear as both have a
similar layout, designs and duplicate contents, plus distincting both
sites from the sole TLD is not the most visible one ; i must admit that
the first time i ended up on mariadb.com i thought at first that it was
just the mariadb.org website that had a design update.
Plus, there is a link to "mariadb.org" on the top menu of mariadb.com, a
link to "Community" or "MariaDB Foundation" or a clear title would be
better.
Le 26/09/2013 10:39, Colin Charles a écrit :
On 25 Sep 2013, at 06:23, MARK CALLAGHAN <[email protected]> wrote:
Define "we", or even define "MariaDB"? I am confused. At this point mariadb.org
looks like a collection of links to #2 and #3 below:
In the context of this email, "we" is Monty Program. Kristian and I both work
there, long before we (MP) had to deal with the MariaDB Foundation and SkySQL.
1) mariadb.org / foundation
2) mariadb.com / skysql
3) askmonty.org
As to how we define MariaDB, I think this is worthy of a discussion. Bear with
me for a moment. The tl;dr version of the following is such that mariadb.org
has always been a collection of links to #2 and #3, with the only exception
being #2 didn't exist before and was called montyprogram.com
Why do we have askmonty.org? Because when the company was announced as Monty
Program, a domain squatter registered the domain. We could have paid the chap
off, but we chose not to enrich a domain squatter, thus we began legal
proceedings to get montyprogram.com. We finally got it, but at this point
things like the downloads and the Knowledgebase were on askmonty.org. We had
montyprogram.com which served to offer developer support, keep track of some
news/press releases, but that was about it.
After a while, we decided we needed to have mariadb.org. Here we put the user
stats collection, the explain analyzer, etc. Eventually downloads moved here.
The knowledgebase still remained at askmonty.org. The blog moved from
blog.montyprogram.com to blog.mariadb.org
With the merger of Monty Program with SkySQL, it seems that naturally
montyprogram.com would have to be retired. Askmonty.org also got retired.
But for reasons beyond me (one might presume this has something to do with a
branding strategy), there is now a new website called MariaDB.com (which as you
allude to above, is SkySQL-owned).
So, mariadb.org is the foundation's website. mariadb.com belongs to skysql.
Now, let's see what has changed from now, compared to a year ago?
* the Knowledgebase seems to have a new URL - kb.askmonty.org is now
https://mariadb.com/kb/en/
What hasn't changed? The downloads. The blog.
In fact, mariadb.org hasn't changed much at all. It still has links pointing to
askmonty.org and montyprogram.com. As I do not represent the Foundation, it is
clear this is something that has to be brought up to the attention of Simon
Phipps, as CEO of the Foundation (https://mariadb.org/en/foundation/).
So the net conclusion?
- We've lost montyprogram.com and askmonty.org (this is good!)
- We've gained mariadb.com (with a potentially confusing offering that has a
vague description)
- The knowledgebase from askmonty.org (the only thing that remained there,
besides the old worklog tool and wiki) has moved to mariadb.com
- We clearly need to improve the content on mariadb.org
- We need to get rid of/merge content of worklog:
http://worklog.askmonty.org/worklog/
Does this help answer your questions? Also, I'm not sure if these discussions
are meant to be on maria-developers, instead of maria-discuss
cheers,
-colin
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