No expectation that others would create it. Just a discussion, so I can
keep it in mind if I ever decide to make my own desktop reader.
But stuff like these, if we are to open between markdown readers, would be
best if at least semi-standard (beyond .md).
On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 3:19 AM, Fletcher T. Penney <
fletc...@fletcherpenney.net> wrote:
>
> I'm confused. Are you creating software to handle these document formats,
> or are you looking for ideas for software that you want other people to
> create for you?
>
> F-
>
>
> On 12/14/14, 7:09 PM, mofo syne wrote:
>
>> For those who develop desktop markdown/commonmark editors, it would be
>> interesting to hear your comments about this
>>
>> While people often treat `.md` files as normal text files. There are
>> some who might want to style their markdown file in a portable manner,
>> so that it looks more like a normal document regardless of where you
>> are. ( A psudo pdf in a sense)
>>
>> While it is a good policy to keep `.md` files as simple as possible, due
>> to all the legacy software that reads the original markdown files. It
>> may be a good idea to create a new filetype that is aimed for for
>> emulating aspects of a normal word processor (styling your document).
>> What would make this filetype better than `.docx`, is that it
>> perpetrates the markup from the styling (via stylesheet) . ( e.g. if
>> stylesheet is remote linked, then you can update the styling for an
>> entire organization easily . If embedded, the content is still more
>> readable than `.docx` files.)
>>
>> In practical terms, it encourage users to type in markdown/commonmark,
>> but still allow for flexibility in distributing it as a visually
>> attractive office document.
>> ### File Type Proposed ###
>>
>> # .md ----> Is equiv to `.txt` so just uses the parser engine directly
>>
>> # .mdoc -----> Parse the document's `metadata/config/style` first, then
>> send through the parser engine
>>
>> # .mdocz ----> A file archive that contextually obtain configuration
>> from file structure and name of `.mdoc`,`.md`, and other support files
>> in it.
>>
>> ### Description of each file type ###
>>
>> # .mdoc
>>
>> "no parse or show" sections are read first ( to take the place of "link"
>> and "head" tags, etc...), before being passed to the parser.
>>
>> This is aimed towards those who would like to write documents in a
>> normal text editor ( e.g. like a jekyll post)
>>
>> ---
>> layout: post
>> title: Blogging Like a Hacker
>> ---
>> content here
>> --- style ---
>> .style {color: blue}
>> --------------
>>
>> --- style:post ---
>> .style {color: red}
>> ------------------
>>
>>
>> note: could have multiple selectable styles. By default the first style
>> without name is chosen. Named style can be selected depending on context
>> E.g. `style:print` print friendly style etc...
>>
>> note2: If you reference a stylesheet, but do not embed it, it will look
>> at the environment for the nearest match. This is useful, in the context
>> of a company that wants every users to use the same stylesheet for
>> internal document. Of course, if you want to send it elsewhere in a
>> consistent manner, you do need to embed it.
>>
>>
>> # .mdocz
>>
>> This is a document archive. This is more useful for those who use a
>> dedicated desktop editor.
>>
>> Unlike other formats like EPUB, the settings is by context, rather than
>> configuration.
>>
>> e.g.
>>
>> >The zip file wouldn't contain any new syntax, but rather a collection
>> of existing formats (Markdown, CSS, png files, etc) linked together
>> using convention over configuration. For example, the print stylesheet
>> could always be called "print.css" and the appropriate meta data would
>> be automatically added to the generated HTML. - [quote="chrisalley,
>> post:15, topic:941"]
>>
>> So when the document header says `style: post`
>>
>> ---
>> style: post
>> title: Blogging Like a Hacker
>> ---
>>
>> it knows to look for `post.css` in the folder CSS first. `layout:post`
>> would look at the layout folder first, before looking at the css folder.
>> ( Much like Jekyll, we should consider support for `liquid template`
>> system, for flexible easy to maintain separation of content to layout).
>>
>> > Authors might be able edit the text files within that container zip
>> file using their chosen editor (this would be application specific), so
>> making the files inside the container easy to read and write is
>> important. We can probably do better than using plain CSS too. Perhaps a
>> preprocessor could be used instead such as SASS (original, non-SCSS
>> syntax) which uses indention instead of curly braces/semicolons - closer
>> to Markdown's philosophy --- [quote="chrisalley, post:17, topic:941"]
>>
>> Thus a typical structure of a book `.mdocz` is (This is just one
>> possible layout, it's contextual):
>>
>> * index.mdoc
>> * /css/
>> * /layout/
>> * /images/
>> * /chapters/ <-- chapter documents here
>> * /bookmark/ <-- user notes here.
>>
>> While a simple document like a resume, might only be a single .mdoc file
>> (easy to tell what to open first) plus images scattered in root folder.
>>
>>
>> ---
>>
>> Original discussion thread:
>>
>> http://talk.commonmark.org/t/commonmark-document-
>> specification-for-desktop-readers/
>>
>>
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