Hi Willie,

Besides a practical comment from Andre Klapper, you were the only one who responded to my request for a talk about accessibility. I've tried to contact Javier Martinez, but so far I have not received a reply. Could you connect us? I'm still very much interested.

Thanks,
Sanne

Sanne te Meerman schreef:
Wow, that's really great... the fact that a local organisation gets involved with software development from the bottom up is fantastic, but this is also great for marketing Open Source, a showcase for the added value of open source development. And for Gnome and Guadec this could also be very valuable. Thank you. Javier, if you're reading this, I'd love to hear more.

Sanne

Willie Walker schreef:
Hi:

The ONCE organization in Spain does a fair amount with GNOME and GNOME accessibility. I'm CC'ing Javier Martinez on this e-mail -- he's my primary contact with ONCE.

Will

Sanne te Meerman wrote:
I've made this a new thread. (this time really, sorry Andre)

Thanks Dave,


If these companies could connect with the public sector during or before Guadec, the involvement of public sector and the mentioned companies will be more attractive for both. Do you have names/ emails of i.e. persons responsible for marketing open source related products at these companies? Or maybe someone from Novell/RH/Mandriva is listening? That would be a good start. Their participation in shaping a meeting of some sort would give me something to 'brag about' at public sector. I've had some contacts in spain in the past, I'll look through my emails for that. Again, if someone from Extremadura is involved with Gnome, let me know.


thank you,

Sanne



Hi,

Stormy Peters wrote:

> I don't think there is anyone currently targeting governments but I
> think we need to do this. Anybody willing to help Sanne?

I believe that Novell, Red Hat and Mandriva all target public sector
markets in Europe.

Perhaps Extremadura and Andalucia would be good contacts for Sanne also,
as government sector users of GNOME.

Chers,
Dave.



Stormy Peters schreef:
I don't think there is anyone currently targeting governments but I think we need to do this. Anybody willing to help Sanne?

Stormy

On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 8:16 AM, Sanne te Meerman <sa...@opensourceadvies.nl <mailto:sa...@opensourceadvies.nl>> wrote:

    Hi,

    Repeated request: is there some information I'm unaware of about
    Gnome and targeting the government market? Or anyone who is
    experienced in this subject?


    thank you,
    Sanne te Meerman
    Guadec organisation

    Sanne te Meerman schreef:

        I've just subscibed to this mailinglist, so to avoid being
        off-topic, I've made a subthread.

        I was immediately triggered by this subject and conversation.
        I am trying to involve Dutch national governemnt with Guadec
        (I'm part of the dutch team of organisers). Focus on
        accessibility and usability can draw attention for several
        reasons, in my opinion:
        -attention on policy issues instead of technique is important.
        Accessibility and usability are issues that ring with
        policymakers (more than technique)
        -Government is more inclined to have attention to these
        subjects than i.e. companies because of political attention
        and pressure to these issues.
        -the bottom-up development of open source might be the best
        way to connect with the personal itches of disabled people.
        The industry involved therefore might have an advantage to
        more traditional ICT companies in this niche market.

        It might be good to have some sessions about usability and
        accesebility during Guadec. I will propose that. Any other
        suggestions? Maybe there is some documentation about Gnome and
        targeting the government market, that someone can point me to.
        That would be helpful.

        thank you,
        Sanne te Meerman

        Brian Cameron schreef:


            Willie/Dave:

It might also be nice to highlight the humanitarian aspects of
            accessibility a bit more.  For example, I think it would
            be nice to
            highlight something about the GNOME accessibility
            community.  Perhaps
            something about the fact that a number of people with
            disabilities
            participate in development and in user forums.  I think
            the promise of
            joining a community of people working to address
            accessibility usability
            issues is attractive to highlight.

            If that wouldn't make it too long, and you agree.

            Brian


                Thanks Dave!  Something about the "specialised
                hardware to interact with applications" portion seems
                odd to me.

                In GNOME, we have a core value that people with
                disabilities have free compelling access to the
                graphical desktop and web. GNOME accomplishes this
                with full keyboard access, theming, and an industry
                leading accessibility infrastructure that is used by
                built-in assistive technologies including a screen
                reader, magnifier, and on screen keyboard.  With a
                model of "built in" versus  "bolted on", GNOME not
                only has free compelling accessibility today, but it
                also  provides a
                rich and stable base for future accessibility  work.

                or... (I just took my first stab at this and added "by
                people with disabilities" to the first sentence):

                In GNOME, accessibility by people with disabilities is
                a core value that touches all aspects of the system.
                With a model of "built in" versus  "bolted on", the
                GNOME Accessibility project has helped lead  the
                industry in accessible design. From the
                infrastructure, to the graphical toolkit, to the
                applications, to the assistive technologies,
                accessibility has been a central consideration from
                the very early days. As a result, GNOME not only has
compelling accessibility today, but it also provides a
                rich and stable base for future accessibility  work.

                Will

                On Dec 8, 2009, at 5:27 PM, Dave Neary wrote:

                    Hi,

                    Shorter would be better, I think.

                    How about this (pure edit, no additions):

                    In GNOME, making sure that people with
                    disabilities can use our software
                    is a core value. From infrastructure allowing our
                    built-in screen reader
                     or specialised hardware to interact with
                    applications to utilities to
                    make it easier for people with motor problems to
                    interact with a
                    computer, accessibility in GNOME is built-in, not
                    bolted on. As a result
                    GNOME not only has compelling accessibility today,
                    it also provides a
                    rich foundation for the future.

                    How does that read? Covers all the bases, I think
                    - a11y is a core
                    value, what does accessibility mean, and how do we
                    make things easier
                    for people with disabilities. Maybe needs a quick
                    fact check on the
                    second sentence (it is at-spi that lets Orca do
                    its thang, isn't it?)

                    Cheers,
                    Dave.


                    Willie Walker wrote:

                        Here's a bunch of run-ons... :-)

                        In GNOME, accessibility by people with
                        disabilities is a core value that
                        touches all  aspects of the system. With a
                        model of "built in" versus
                         "bolted on", the GNOME Accessibility project
                        has helped lead  the
                        industry in accessible design. From the
                        accessibility infrastructure, to
                        the graphical toolkit, to the applications, to
                        the assistive
                        technologies, accessibility has been a central
                        consideration from the
                        very early days of GNOME. As a result, GNOME
                        not only has compelling
                        accessibility today, but it also provides a
                        rich and stable base for
                        future accessibility work.

                        Today, users have built-in keyboard
                        navigation, highly customizable
                        fonts/colors/icons, keyboard enhancements such
                        as StickyKeys, the
                        MouseTweaks tool that provides mouse clicking
                        features by dwelling, the
                        GOK on screen keyboard that can be driven via
                        dwell clicking and
                        switches, the Dasher predictive text entry
                        tool, and the Orca screen
                        reader and magnifier. Developers also have the
                        glade-3 tool that helps
                        encourage accessible user interface design and
                        the accerciser tool that
                        helps developers analyze how their application
                        is exposed to the
                        built-in accessibility infrastructure.  For
                        tomorrow, the GNOME project
                        is busily working on enhancing the on screen
                        keyboard and magnifier,
                        developing ways to use web cameras to move the
                        mouse based upon
                        head/body position, and making the solution
                        much more friendly to
                        resource constrained devices such as netbooks
                        and the OLPC.

                        Will

On Dec 8, 2009, at 1:08 PM, Stormy Peters wrote:

                            Looks good.

                            Can we add a sentence or two about what
                            accessibility is or give some
                            examples of the technology?

                            Stormy

On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 11:07 AM, Willie Walker
                            <william.wal...@sun.com
                            <mailto:william.wal...@sun.com>> wrote:

Here's a quick snippet I might propose:

                                 In GNOME, accessibility is a core
                                value that touches all  aspects of
                                the system. With a model of "built in"
                                versus  "bolted on", the GNOME
                                Accessibility project has helped lead
                                 the industry in accessible
                                design. From the infrastructure, to
                                the graphical toolkit, to the
                                applications, to the assistive
                                technologies, accessibility has been a
                                central consideration from the very
                                early days. As a result, GNOME
                                 not only has compelling accessibility
                                today, but it also  provides a
                                rich and stable base for future
                                accessibility  work.

                                 Will


                                 On Dec 8, 2009, at 12:58 PM, Stormy
                                Peters wrote:

                                     Paul Cutler and Denise Walters
                                    were working on that part so
hopefully one of them will chime in.

                                     It'd probably be good to ask the
                                    a11y team for a short summary to
                                    put there though.

                                     Stormy

                                     On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 8:34 PM,
                                    Ben Konrath <b...@bagu.org
                                    <mailto:b...@bagu.org>> wrote:



                                         On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 4:03
                                        PM, Stormy Peters
                                        <sto...@gnome.org
                                        <mailto:sto...@gnome.org>>
                                        wrote:
                                         <snip>

                                            Accessibility:

                                            [photgraph of user
interacting with A11Y tools]


                                         Is there a reason why there
                                        is no text for this section?
                                        Did you guys
                                         not have time to write
                                        something up during the
                                        meeting or was it
                                        lost
                                         in a cut 'n paste? :-) I'm
                                        really just wondering what's
                                        up just so I
                                         know if this is something the
                                        a11y team needs to write up if
                                        we go
ahead with the Braille handouts.

                                         Cheers, Ben


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