Chiradeep Vittal <mailto:[email protected]>
16 May 2014 20:26
We need insight into hypervisor types, networking mode (basic,
advanced with VLAN, advanced with SDN), storage protocols (ISCSI,
NFS), hardware types (white box, UCS, etc), guest types,
From: Giles Sirett
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Date: Friday, May 16, 2014 at 9:35 AM
To:
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Subject: RE: [discuss] cloudstack survey
All
I spent some time yesterday discussing this with Sebastien and we
looked at our initial survey, Marks suggested survey and some others
for other projects
We felt the best starting point was the current survey for another
iaas project (it’s a pretty minor project, you may not have heard it)
Karen has copied the questions and I've just shared them in a google doc
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1g2GFefjPiyazB9FQ80zr3AgC-kqlXtMo0xBKPHKCbRA/edit?usp=sharing
(ive replaced ****stack with Cloudstack in the doc - but theres no
other changes, so bear in mind some answer lists (in fact some
questions) may not be relevant
I would like to use this as a starting point for the questions for our
survey.
Please discuss on this thread any changes, removals, additional
questions that you think should be asked.
Kind Regards
Giles
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-----Original Message-----
From: Arjan Eriks [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: 15 May 2014 18:09
To:
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [discuss] cloudstack survey
Giles,
My response from my perspective is very positive for this initiative.
Everything that gives a good and fair overview of the real situation
will give this community and product trust. Building this trust will
most probably help us getting more devs interested, but probably more
users first.
If needed I can help with some analyses and transform / help
displaying data in a manner that is of use for the product and in the
language of our audience.
So please go ahead. You are the PMC nowadays. Do you have a team to
work with already?
Rgds, Arjan
On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 12:03 PM, Giles Sirett
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>wrote:
All
I’ve had a few conversations with folks recently and there seems to be
a desire to run another survey on Cloudstack adoption.
I think this is a good idea.
When we ran the last survey (June 2013), we had long debates on this
list around the content of that survey, what questions should be asked
and how we handle the data.
Original discussion thread:
http://cloudstack.markmail.org/thread/ras2w7kezaqxp2ii
The end result was that I created this survey
https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/28BV97D
and we then agreed that I would work with a PMC member in order to
analyse and share the results back to the wider community. The source
data was held in private@ for confidentiality.
Since that survey, we only have anecdotal evidence of user adoption.
This is something that we MUST change IMO
My proposal is this:
1. We discuss on this list the format of that survey (using the
existing one as a starting point) - what questions should be asked,
what we wish to establish. From the previous discussions, different
people had different objectives for the survey
2. We then leave that survey open on a rolling basis. We could link
to it from cloudstack.a.o (“using Cloudstack? – tell us here”).
Hopefully, this will feed data into the “whos using cloudstack”
3. As before, the raw data will be shared at @private level and
analysis of that data for publication can be performed by a group of
PMC folks
Heres my initial comments on changes to the original (mine are mostly
marketing related):
1. We should ask about their community involvement, whether they
are signed up on mailing lists, etc (and can use this opportunity to
TELL them about mailing lists)
2. Ask them what country they are based in (good for analysis)
3. If they are not the person who is responsible for making the
“we can talk about it” decision: we should ask them who is
4. “In one line, describe what you use cloudstack for”
5. Ask them specifically if they would be prepared to do a case
study around cloudstack
6. Update/more specific version numbers
7. Ask them WHY they chose cloudstack
8. Create a Chinese, Japanese, Portuguese, French, Spanish,etc
version of the survey (I can take on Portuguese & Spanish – will need
help with the others)
Kind Regards
Giles
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Giles Sirett <mailto:[email protected]>
16 May 2014 18:35
All
I spent some time yesterday discussing this with Sebastien and we
looked at our initial survey, Marks suggested survey and some others
for other projects
We felt the best starting point was the current survey for another
iaas project (it’s a pretty minor project, you may not have heard it)
Karen has copied the questions and I've just shared them in a google doc
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1g2GFefjPiyazB9FQ80zr3AgC-kqlXtMo0xBKPHKCbRA/edit?usp=sharing
(ive replaced ****stack with Cloudstack in the doc - but theres no
other changes, so bear in mind some answer lists (in fact some
questions) may not be relevant
I would like to use this as a starting point for the questions for our
survey.
Please discuss on this thread any changes, removals, additional
questions that you think should be asked.
Kind Regards
Giles
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-----Original Message-----
From: Arjan Eriks [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: 15 May 2014 18:09
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [discuss] cloudstack survey
Giles,
My response from my perspective is very positive for this initiative.
Everything that gives a good and fair overview of the real situation
will give this community and product trust. Building this trust will
most probably help us getting more devs interested, but probably more
users first.
If needed I can help with some analyses and transform / help
displaying data in a manner that is of use for the product and in the
language of our audience.
So please go ahead. You are the PMC nowadays. Do you have a team to
work with already?
Rgds, Arjan
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Arjan Eriks <mailto:[email protected]>
15 May 2014 19:08
Giles,
My response from my perspective is very positive for this initiative.
Everything that gives a good and fair overview of the real situation
will give this community and product trust. Building this trust will
most probably help us getting more devs interested, but probably more
users first.
If needed I can help with some analyses and transform / help
displaying data in a manner that is of use for the product and in the
language of our audience.
So please go ahead. You are the PMC nowadays. Do you have a team to
work with already?
Rgds, Arjan
Giles Sirett <mailto:[email protected]>
7 May 2014 12:03
All
I’ve had a few conversations with folks recently and there seems to be
a desire to run another survey on Cloudstack adoption.
I think this is a good idea.
When we ran the last survey (June 2013), we had long debates on this
list around the content of that survey, what questions should be asked
and how we handle the data.
Original discussion thread:
http://cloudstack.markmail.org/thread/ras2w7kezaqxp2ii
The end result was that I created this survey
https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/28BV97D
and we then agreed that I would work with a PMC member in order to
analyse and share the results back to the wider community. The source
data was held in private@ for confidentiality.
Since that survey, we only have anecdotal evidence of user adoption.
This is something that we MUST change IMO
My proposal is this:
1.We discuss on this list the format of that survey (using the
existing one as a starting point) - what questions should be asked,
what we wish to establish. From the previous discussions, different
people had different objectives for the survey
2.We then leave that survey open on a rolling basis. We could link to
it from cloudstack.a.o (“using Cloudstack? – tell us here”).
Hopefully, this will feed data into the “whos using cloudstack”
3.As before, the raw data will be shared at @private level and
analysis of that data for publication can be performed by a group of
PMC folks
Heres my initial comments on changes to the original (mine are mostly
marketing related):
1.We should ask about their community involvement, whether they are
signed up on mailing lists, etc (and can use this opportunity to TELL
them about mailing lists)
2.Ask them what country they are based in (good for analysis)
3. If they are not the person who is responsible for making the “we
can talk about it” decision: we should ask them who is
4.“In one line, describe what you use cloudstack for”
5.Ask them specifically if they would be prepared to do a case study
around cloudstack
6.Update/more specific version numbers
7.Ask them WHY they chose cloudstack
8.Create a Chinese, Japanese, Portuguese, French, Spanish,etc version
of the survey (I can take on Portuguese & Spanish – will need help
with the others)
Kind Regards
Giles
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