Giles, no argument against prudence. Not applauding the only derivative our project has would be a bad sign as well. commercial or not. Wonder what marketing@faundation has to say about that.
On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 12:35 PM, Giles Sirett <[email protected]> wrote: > It is a good article and thanks to Steve for writing and Karen to *trying* > to promote. Sunando is right – its great to see any cloudstack related > coverage and I agree that this can only help the overall awareness. > > > > However, it is an article about CCP, not about Apache Cloudstack. I have no > criticism of that, its great to see, and an interesting read. > > > > > > From a practicality viewpoint: > > I think the problem with promoting this from the project is it could > actually lead to confusion. (we all know many in the media still refer to > this as Citrix Cloudstack) . If the official Cloudstack feeds suddenly start > tweeting about specific vendors tech or services, that’s ripe for confusion > > > > From a governance perspective: > > The project should not be promoting 3rd party product marketing in this way. > > With a marketers hat on, that’s frustrating, but I wouldn’t ask an Apache > project to promote my business through official channels > > > > On Marks comment “dammed if we do, dammed if we don’t” : Mark I don’t think > anybody’s criticising anybody else for ramping up the marketing efforts. The > previous threads were about the uncertainty of Citrxs involvement in > Cloudstack, and this type of activity certainly helps dispel some of that. > I think this is a specific issue about asking a “group of volunteers” to > start promoting a piece of vendor marketing. To that extent, I think this > discussion thread would have started at any point in time if Karen made the > same request (i.e. I think we need to separate these two subjects. This is a > specific issue been raised about this one request – not about the bigger > picture) > > > > But lets not fight over this: I’m happy to tweet about this article, (and > think I already have ) - I’m sure many others here will also be happy to do > so (and some may not) > > > > > > > > > > Kind Regards > > Giles > > > > D: +44 20 3603 0541 | M: +44 796 111 2055 > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > From: Sunando Bhattacharya [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: 03 February 2015 05:05 > To: [email protected]; Abhinandan Prateek > Cc: Chip Childers ([email protected]); David Nalley > Subject: Re: Latest Blog Post > > > > I think promoting this blog actually helps our overall cause. > > > > Over the last few months, we have always felt that one of the major reasons > of cloudstack being a laggard (adoption-wise) is the general perception in > the market that Citrix is slowly pulling out its support from the project. > Hence articles like these go a long way in changing those perceptions. > > > > Moreover, one of the big reasons for the widespread interest in Openstack is > the number of vendors offering commercial forks/support on it. Hence if any > other vendor comes out with the same for cloudstack, we should happily > promote. > > > > However, I also agree with Abhi that any post by Citrix should also have a > few lines that talk about the Cloudstack project/ community in general. > > > > — > > Best, > > Sunando Bhattacharya > +91 97111 52299 > www.indiqus.com > > > > > > On 3 February 2015 at 10:25:09 am, Abhinandan Prateek > ([email protected]) wrote: > > Yes, it is a nice post about the closed source private fork, that was rarely > discussed in community. > > I would expect such blogs that are promoted officially to do more to display > the vibrancy of the community, instead of taking a narrow view. > It is debatable whether it should be promoted officially, though for this > instance I will keep my vote neutral. > > -abhi > > >> On 03-Feb-2015, at 9:49 am, Rohit Yadav <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Steve - Good post on CCP. >> >> Karen - why should we be promoting any closed source fork on CloudStack’s >> twitter account? As long as a fork is closed source and we don’t have the >> four freedoms to run it like we wish, study the code, modify, and >> redistribute -- we should not care. If the blog could be modified to promote >> the Apache CloudStack project then it would be alright to share it on the >> official social media accounts. >> >>> On 02-Feb-2015, at 9:55 pm, Karen Vuong <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Steve – nice blog post! >>> >>> Chip/David – could you help upload a few tweets that I’ve created to the >>> @CloudStack Twitter account? >>> Spreadsheet:https://citrix.sharefile.com/d/s357c5f8e3754958b >>> >>> Help promote: >>> >>> I’ve created a few click-to-tweets. When you get a chance today, please >>> feel free to help promote this blog post! >>> >>> Click to Tweet: http://ctt.ec/Gs45e >>> >>> Building a carrier-grade cloud with @Citrix CloudPlatform - powered by >>> Apache #CloudStack clds.co/1Ajf7ZM #cloudstackworks #xenserver >>> >>> Click to Tweet: http://ctt.ec/aa7B5 >>> Powered by #CloudStack. CCP is touted by many as the most mature & robust >>> option for building an #IaaS cloud clds.co/1Ajf7ZM @Citrix >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Karen >>> >>> From: Steve Wilson [mailto:[email protected]] >>> Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 8:47 AM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Latest Blog Post >>> >>> Hi All, >>> >>> Here’s my latest blog post on Citrix CloudPlatform (powered by Apache >>> Cloudstack). 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