I agree on all points with Joan. An emphatic “no” on creating a couchdb space on Spektrum. If this has been made, we ask that you delete it.
B. > On 21 Jun 2019, at 15:57, Joan Touzet <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Chintan, > >> On 2019-06-21 7:21, Chintan Mishra wrote: >> Dear team, >> >> I noticed this message on the Slack workspace by the user `@jan` >> >> https://couchdb.slack.com/archives/C49LEE7NW/p1560856033217500 >> >> Quoting the message in the link: >> >> this would require very little erlang and we can help with that >> part, what this project would need is someone who comes up with a >> compelling technical vision that goes beyond “works for me / solves >> my problems” and who is committed to maintain this going forward, >> find a team that helps, etc. >> >> After reading this, I realized there are a few things that we(CouchDB's >> team and Rebhu Computing's team) can do to help the CouchDB project >> right now. Here is a small list of those things: >> >> 1. *Organize a competition*for getting people to know about CouchDB. >> 2. *Make CouchDB more visible*. Unlike most other popular databases the >> online presence of CouchDB is not huge. Slack communication is not >> search indexed which makes it difficult to get new people to see all >> the things that are happening in the CouchDB world. >> 3. A *way forward for CouchDB is focusing on what it is best*at viz., >> being a database for _*C*__luster __*O*__f __*U*__nreliable >> __*C*__ommodity __*H*__ardware_. Being deploy-able at edge devices. >> Focusing on this will invite people building for IoTs towards >> CouchDB. And this will drive a whole new set of users/customers >> towards CouchDB and IBM's Cloudant project. We already use >> Cloudant's sync-android and CDTDatastore in our startup's(Rebhu >> Computing) product. >> >> Here are someways we, Rebhu Computing, can help right away: >> >> 1. We(Rebhu Computing) can organize a competition in India(Asia) where >> people build things using CouchDB. This can have *a theme to >> increase the number of participants*. And a jury can select the top >> 3 projects. The *winners get a T-Shirt* with CouchDB and startup's >> branding. And their project will be hosted by us(Rebhu Computing) >> for a year. > > I'm +0 on the competition. I'm personally not a huge fan of competitive > activities, being more of a collaborative sort, but I recognize this > activity may make sense in your part of the world more than in mine. > > As the Apache Software Foundation is a non-profit, it cannot be seen > that the Foundation has sponsored your *company* or your hosting service > - there are strict rules and regulations around this. > > Quoting our policy: "Nothing in this ASF policy statement shall be > interpreted to allow any third party to claim any association with the > Apache Software Foundation or any of its projects or to imply any > approval or support by ASF for any third party products or services." > > Our Third Party Event Branding policy is here: > > https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/events > > Any CouchDB branding will have to be approved by the PMC and possibly > the Apache Software Foundation. Further, Apache CouchDB is a trademark > that the Foundation will defend vigorously. > >> 2. Migrate to Spectrum chat <https://spectrum.chat> and *make all of >> the CouchDB conversation search indexed*. No other DB community is >> actively doing this and it will improve CouchDB's ranking on >> DB-Engines website >> <https://db-engines.com/en/ranking/document+store>. I have >> personally wanted to do this for so long that I had already created >> a CouchDB group on Spectrum almost a year ago. > > No, thank you. > > The ASF has traditionally used IRC, and more recently Slack, for real > time chatting. We are happy to stay with the tools supported by and used > by the Foundation. > > Perhaps someone would consider setting up a Slack-to-IRC gateway for the > Freenode #couchdb channel (which we lost when Slack discontinued the > gateway). Plenty of logging solutions exist for IRC. This would prevent > us having to uproot the community and use a new client. > >> 3. I would love to know the *viewpoint of the whole team* about the >> suggested way forward for CouchDB. > > That's my opinion. :) > > -Joan >
