On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 3:15 AM, Bernhard Dippold <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi James, Danishka, all
>
> James Walker schrieb:
>
> On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 8:23 AM, Danishka Navin<[email protected]>  wrote:
>>
>>
>>>> In my opinion I think that we should really leave it up to the
>>>> individual
>>>> marketing teams to do this for their area.  It would be easier to manage
>>>> and
>>>> then the items sold could be better customized to their market.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> you meant local communities will produce Tshirts and send their funds
>>> back
>>> to TDF ?
>>>
>>> I don't think it as a good solution, but it is the best solution if we
>>> are
>>> not working for fund raising with Tshirts.
>>>
>>
> I don't think that it is necessary that all stores have to be led by TDF
> directly.
>
> In my eyes local stores make sense by avoiding customs, reducing transport
> fees and delivery times.
>
> Probably we (the community led by the Steering Committee) will have to
> define which way to go:
>
> a) one centralized store
>
> b) one central organization with different local stores
>
> c) officially approved local stores (one for each region)
>
> d) officially approved local stores (no restriction by region)
>   like the distributor network on OOo
>
> e) stores without direct connection to the community / TDF
>
>
>
>>>
>> With us having marketing broken down into regions, or languages, I think
>> it
>> would be easier for each language group or marketing area to do there own
>> thing.  Just like there are places in the US that make the items and
>> handle
>> shipping and everything else for you, I am sure there is in other
>> countries
>> as well.  It would be really confusing I think to attempt a global store.
>>
>> I also am not sure what selling stuff under TDF would do for the
>> non-profit
>> aspect of the foundation.
>>
>> What I see is the US/CAN marketing teams setting up a place and then
>> directing people to that site when they are out promoting LibreOffice.
>>  Then
>> all the money that is generated from their store could go towards more
>> Marketing in the area.  I think seperating the funds like that would work
>> just fine.
>>
>> I am going to end here for now, as I feel like I am rambling.
>>
>
> Not at all - this is a topic we should discuss and decide, at it is a good
> opportunity to raise money.
>
> What I want to avoid is companies paying money to become the official LibO
> store - avoiding concurrent stores until the next one pays more money.
>
> Even if this might bring us the most money, it might not be the best
> situation for our users / customers and doesn't fit to my understanding of
> free and open.
>
> My preference is option d)
>
> Stores have to ask permission to be mentioned on our website.
>
> We provide officially approved designs for them to sell (or we accept their
> design proposals - under free license - as part of our official visual
> design)
>
> They can add a button/banner "Officially approved LibreOffice store".
>
> They donate a certain percentage to TDF.
>
> Best regards
>
> Bernhard
>
>>
>>
>
>
Personally,   I am looking into setting up something for the US/Can
Marketing teams, where most of the money raised will go back into marketing
efforts in the US/Can. I am sure we will have a little bit of overhead to
maybe have someone take care of all the paperwork, and make sure all the
orders make it to the person they are supposed to.

I am still looking into the idea of the T-shirts that we discussed before,
if someone would like to purpose artwork for say the front pocket of the
T-shirt, and maybe a design for the back that would help.  We could then
vote on it, then I will make a list of all those interested in ordering and
then see how much per T-shirt I can get them made. We have some very good
quality T-shirts made for work every year.  These are used in a shop
enviroment and they last most of the guys a couple of years when we order 5
or so a piece.

James Walker

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