Hey Bernhard,

not shure, if you really understood the problem:

It is not the color RGB (24,136,3) - this is the same value in Adobe CS
by opening Logo-File (png, jpg or svg).

But again, RGB is not for printing! Real world uses CMYK Colors.
So, when I change to the RGB Color to CMYK, value is: 79,0,100,0 in
Adobe CS.
Your branding-color table calls CMYK (85,0,98,36), which is real darker
then the RGB color!

You understand the missmatch? I can use your CMYK (85,0,98,36) or I can
use your RGB, which is CMYK (79,0,100,0). Both are different!

My personal opinion: I will use CMYK (79,0,100,0), which appears nearer
to the green in Web :-)

Best regards
Thomas

Am 27.01.2011 02:09, schrieb Bernhard Dippold:
> Hi Thomas, all,
> 
> CC'ing the design list as I think this topic should be discussed there.
> 
> Thomas Krumbein schrieb:
>> Hey folks,
>>
>> it´s me again - I still do not have an real answer regarding colors.
> 
> Sorry - but as I don't possess Adobe CS4, I can't reproduce your problem.
>>
>> We now have to do the printing for CeBIT 2011 - and I like to get an
>> clear answer from all those people, who have made the color "branding
>> guidelines".
> 
> Christoph Noack is the one who provided these colors - based on some 
> thoughts from the design team.
>>
>> Unles I do not get an clear answer here, I will decide the colors for
>> myself - and than I will use CMYK 79, 0, 100, 0.
> 
> I don't understand what's the problem with the values written on the 
> wiki site. As they will be printed on "real" material, they will look 
> different from their representation on the web.
> 
> 
>>
>> Again the link for comparing colors:
>>
>> www.ooodev.org/images/downloads/LibO/farbunterschied.pdf
> 
> This file shows really dark green tones - and imported in Inkscape it 
> reads #007c37 for the darker and #1cb24b for the lighter green.
> 
> None of them is #18a303 what it should be.
> 
> I could send you a screenshot (or the SVG file), but I assume that this 
> result is based on several conversions between applications, file 
> formats and color models, so it would probably not help.
> 
> As we can't avoid conversion problems with different applications, we 
> should stay with the color codes as far as possible. Even with the same 
> color codes they will look different when presented on different 
> monitors or printed by different printers.
> 
> (I remember a strange color problem with Adobe conversion to CMYK back 
> in 2006  on the OOo-Art list, where only Illustrator showed different 
> colors or converted to other values while all the other applications 
> showed the same color. Can't search the archive at the moment, but it 
> was related to the Art Style guide we created then - and perhaps a 
> comment made it in the guide too)
> 
> So please use
> HEX 18a303
> RGB (24,136,3)
> CMYK (85,0,98,36)
> 
> some more comments below...
>>
>> Best regarsds
>> Thomas
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Am 16.01.2011 13:46, schrieb Thomas Krumbein:
>>> Hey,
>>>
>>> I try to create some marketing-material for LibO, unfortunatly I have
>>> some mismatch in colors:
>>>
>>> Following the branding guidlines the main color for "Libre" is "Green
>>> 1", Hex 18A303, RGB 24 163 3, CMYK 85 0 98 36
>>> When I use the cmyk values (for printing), color seems to be really
>>> "darker" then the LibO Color (as seen in Web).
>>>
>>> I am using Adobe CS4 - Illustrator.
>>> When I try to open the svg-logo-file, I got an error.
> 
> I'll send you a file converted to "plain SVG" offlist. Perhaps you can 
> open this one.
> 
>>> When I open the png file, I can pick up the color of the "Libre" word:
>>> Hex 25A22D, RGB 37 162 45, CMYK 79,0,100,0
> 
> I don't know enough about color definition in PNG. But the logo has been 
> exported from Inkscape with the right color, so it might be possible to 
> find out, how the color values are stored.
> 
> Did you have a look at the file with a different application than 
> Illustrator? Does the color differ?
>>>
>>> Well, this values are really different!
> 
> Yes indeed.
>>>
>>> So, what to do?
> 
> Ii just tried to save a SVG file containing a green rectangle and open 
> it in an editor. It reads:
> 
> style="color:#000000;fill:#18a303;fill-opacity:1 ...
> 
> The exported PNG file doesn't show any readable values because it is 
> compressed, I suggest.
> 
> But as well in Inkscape as in GIMP the color stays #18a303. so I don't 
> know if there is a problem with the .png file you got or with the color 
> rendering at yours or somewhere in-between.
> 
> Perhaps the SVG file can be opened...
> 
> Best regards
> 
> Bernhard
> 


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