Hello Tim,
Le 17/10/2011 01:24, timofonic timofonic a écrit : > Hello. > > It's just an idea I want to promote, because I think it can be more > interesting than some people think. Anyone can foorward the idea I > expressed to anyone that can help to make it reality, I just want to > become reality as an user of Libreoffice and other text editors. OASIS > seems a good candidate for this, even other office suites or advanced > text editors. > > The point of RTCE is not just for office applications, but any text > editor targeted at not just very simple functionality. So this can be > a wide standard in terms of possible adoption, and maybe even add > interoperability with online projects like EtherPad. > > Regards. thanks for the idea... let's see whether it's possible to work wifor th it for LOOL. Best, Charles. > > > On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 9:51 PM, Tom Davies <tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: >> Hi :) >> I think it might be good to forward this to OASIS. THey already have >> collaboration between various projects to produce OpenDocument Format >> specifications. I think that is part of what is being called for here? A >> specification that can be shared by the various existing OpenSource office >> applications? >> Regards from >> Tom :) >> >> >> >> --- On Fri, 14/10/11, timofonic timofonic <timofo...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> From: timofonic timofonic <timofo...@gmail.com> >>> Subject: [libreoffice-marketing] What about Real-time collaborative editing >>> (RTCE) in LibreOffice? A simple user POW proposal >>> To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org >>> Date: Friday, 14 October, 2011, 16:04 >>> Hello to everyone. >>> >>> I'm just an user of LibreOffice, no developer at all. But I >>> think >>> maybe this can be an interesting discussion with the more >>> skilled >>> people involved into the project. >>> >>> Since the apparition of SubEthaEdit for Macs, the >>> real-time >>> collaborative editing (from now on referred as RTCE) >>> started to rise >>> from these days. The Web 2.0 phonomenom made RTCE even more >>> known with >>> Writely and EtherPad, then Google bought both (but EhterPad >>> now >>> remains as a FOSS project) to integrate resources to the >>> Google Docs >>> online Office suite. >>> >>> There are editors that already support RTCE, like AbiWord >>> (by using >>> AbiCollab extension), ACE, Emacs (by extensions like Rudel >>> or others) >>> and Gobby. Unfortunately there aren't a strong open >>> standard protocol >>> shared among them, so interoperability is a big issue >>> there. >>> >>> RTCE is something thinked before in OpenOffice and seems >>> also taken in >>> account in LibreOffice as future ideas to develop, but the >>> approach >>> and ideas behind it were primitive or their importance is >>> still not >>> enough considered. >>> >>> http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Crazy_Ideas#Simple_server-based_collaborative_editing >>> >>> There's an open RTCE protocol named Infinote ( http://infinote.org ), >>> a redesign of the Obby protocol that is part of Gobby and >>> implemented >>> in libinfinity. There's a server implementation named >>> Infinoted and >>> the protocol is already user by some third party >>> applications but the >>> popularity is quite low at this moment. >>> >>> There's "jarn.xmpp.collaboration" >>> (http://pypi.python.org/pypi/jarn.xmpp.collaboration), a >>> XMPP protocol >>> extension targeted at RTCE. The protocol is still quite >>> young, but >>> still actively developed. >>> >>> The use of an open protocol standard would not just help >>> interoperability between different projects, but also >>> improve the >>> protocol for being more flexible and powerful over time in >>> the same >>> way of ODF. >>> >>> While interoperability with existing projects is very cool >>> and nice, >>> this isn't going to resolve the issue in the long term. >>> Those projects >>> will stay incompatible between them, and each new project >>> may choose a >>> new protocol that LibreOffice developers would need to >>> implement it. >>> >>> I understand an initiative like this isn't easy at all, >>> because it's >>> not only developing a powerful and well documented RTCE >>> protocol. Like >>> in the example of Infinote, that means nothing if the >>> protocol isn't >>> adopted and promoted widely by other related projects. >>> >>> This is a proposal from the user point of view, but I hope >>> to make >>> some people think about it. In my opinion this could be a >>> "killer app" >>> for LibreOffice and also gain popularity in >>> education/business/government environments too. >>> >>> I'm supossing this concept would require developer efforts, >>> lots of >>> PR, contacting with other organizations and such. Make >>> people agree on >>> standards seems not easy, but I think is possible if people >>> do the >>> necessary effort (as showed in ODF). >>> >>> With a bit of research from my illiterate perspective, I >>> already found >>> other theorical and practical proposals and experiments on >>> RTCE. So I >>> think more skilled people can investigate further on the >>> tecnical side >>> of this if there's enough interest on it. >>> >>> Please think about this proposal and give your opinions. >>> I hope my >>> thinking can be at least a bit useful to the community to >>> start an >>> interesting discussion about the topic. >>> >>> Regards. >>> >>> PS: I think this can be even more interesting to >>> investigate from now >>> on since the appearing of the LibreOffice Online project. >>> >>> -- >>> Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org >>> Problems? >>> http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ >>> Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette >>> List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ >>> All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived >>> and cannot be deleted >>> >> >> -- >> Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org >> Problems? >> http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ >> Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette >> List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ >> All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be >> deleted >> >> > -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
