The big thing I though about was hardware and Internet costs, plus the
needed marketing in the USA, as well as Europe.
If we ask for 3 times what we currently need, then get half that figure,
we will hopefully make out.
The costs of everything is going up. We must plan of it.
On 10/02/2012 12:47 PM, Tom Davies wrote:
Hi :)
I was following in the spirit of Tim's post. I suspect that most contributors
are not yet members. The membership committee have been working hard to
process the applications but there is a bit of a bottle-neck. It's not easy as
there is probably a vast amount to process and far too few people able to
process them. TDF is growing fast. Quite how fast is unlikely to be easily
quantifiable (as Tim was hinting) and whether that growth is going to continue
at the same rate. Continued exponential growth seems highly unlikely and
possibly impossible otherwise it would soon be more than the number of people
currently living and recently deceased.
Regards from
Tom :)
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From: Jean Weber <[email protected]>
To: Tom Davies <[email protected]>
Cc: webmaster-Kracked_P_P <[email protected]>;
"[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, 2 October 2012, 17:31
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Tom, the number of members of TDF is not the same as the number of contributors
to LibreOffice, and probably the two numbers are not even related. Don't mix
apples and oranges.
Jean
On 02/10/2012, at 18:19, Tom Davies <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi :)
I agree that TDF is growing fast but is tripling in size each year realistic??
In the first year it started with 20 people and 1 release in one branch. Here
we are 2 years later with 'a few' more than 180 people and having gone through
to the 4 branches with around 5-6 releases per branch (ie a few more than 9
releases).
Regards from
Tom :)
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Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] donation meter
On 10/02/2012 04:59 AM, Charles-H. Schulz wrote:
Le lundi 01 octobre 2012 à 09:55 +0200, Florian Effenberger a écrit :
Hello,
our fundraising campaign officially starts today. Like last time, I'd
like to add a donation meter to our websites, so people can donate
towards a goal.
I am not a friend of unrealistic values, just to keep people donating
("We want one million dollars"). However, since this time, the main goal
is to define our budget for 2013, and therefore determining the
community's resources for next year, I'd like to come up with a senseful
symbolic value. Comparing TDF with any other major free software
organization, our budget is rather low.
As an example: We have XY language projects, and each of them should
have a budget of Z, that makes XYZ € to raise.
Or: We have XY million downloads, and if we get 0,01 € per download, we
want to raise XYZ €.
Anyone has some nice numbers we can work with?
I'd go for a total of 500K (max). This being said I think the marketing
list is somewhat unaware of the needed volumes.
Best,
Charles.
Florian
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I do not know what the current yearly cost is, but:
Why not take the current hardware and Internet costs and triple it.
Then add in the same for projected real marketing costs and see what
that give you.
Then take that figure and add in another 50%.
That could give a more "realistic" figure for 2012 "donations needed" figure.
After that you could increase it by another 20% to 50% for 2013.
Any figure that TDF asks for must have a realistic amount and can be justified
with numbers for each line item for the current needs and the projected needs
for TDF. Otherwise, having a super large figure listed will be either a waste
of time or worse for the marketing aspect of LO and its reputation.
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