Le mercredi 10 avril 2013 à 11:11 +0100, Ian Lynch a écrit :
> On 10 April 2013 09:07, Charles-H. Schulz
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>         Thanks Ian. At the risk of repeating myself this is a taks
>         based mailing list for marketing and not a venue for
>         advertisement. 
>         
>         
> I'd have considered getting the brand out on certificates across eg
> Kenya to be a directly relevant marketing task.

No. It's about certification provided by your company. It is your
business.  It's not LibreOffice marketing. 

>  Seems other community members, Evans, Tom and  Cor agree with that. 

Smart move: play one against the other. But they did not agree with what
you implied. They merely responded. 

> I'm only responding to their posts with relevant and objective
> information, I didn't initiate the thread. But as I said I haven't
> time for petty squabbling so I have removed LO logo and references
> from our site, you can check at https://theingots.org/community/home.
> If you come across any you don't like anywhere I'm happy to remove
> them. We have nothing to gain from publicising LO and if anything it
> costs us in time and effort so it is far more sensible for me to put
> time effort and resources into FOSS communities where I don't get
> aggravation. 


Your decision. It obviously did not cost you that much. 

>         Let's close that thread now.
>         
>         
> As far as I am concerned I only responded relevantly and in context
> with information people might find useful. If this message closes the
> thread its fine by me.

Thank you,

Charles.

>         Thanks,
>         
>         Charles.
>         
>         
>         
>         
>         Ian Lynch <[email protected]> a écrit :
>                 On 9 April 2013 20:29, Cor Nouws <[email protected]> wrote:
>                 
>                 
>                         Ian Lynch wrote (09-04-13 12:44)
>                         
>                         A point to note is we don't do courses. We
>                         quality assure the outcomes of
>                                 courses.
>                         
>                         
>                         Is the way you assure the quality of the
>                         outcomes something that we can
>                         learn from?
>                 
>                 
>                 Possibly - it's agreed with the UK national regulators
>                 through the
>                 Regulatory Conditions. They are at
>                 http://www.theingots.org/community/OfqualA
>                 
>                 Its a bit like an ISO 9000 system for Awarding
>                 Organisations. In essence we
>                 deal with centres - Schools, Colleges and Adult
>                 Education orgs. We train
>                 their staff as assessors and they sign professional
>                 agreements on the web
>                 site to uphold professional standards. We sample their
>                 work and in some
>                 cases use short on-line tests to verify standards. The
>                 methods depend on
>                 the risk presented by the qualification in terms of
>                 the level and its
>                 purpose. You can down load the handbook we use for
>                 schools at
>                 https://theingots.org/community/handbook2 Click here
>                 in the first
>                 paragraph. There is a model test in the book and some
>                 explanation of the
>                 assessment methods.
>                 
>                 This means we do not have a lot of content to change
>                 and we leave
>                                 the teaching to the institutions
>                                 professional preferences.
>                         
>                         
>                         The only things to up date are the Logo link
>                         on the home page of the web
>                                 site
>                         
>                         
>                         Apart from what the board may decide, at least
>                         the use of the logo without
>                         TDF line is needed and is something you can do
>                         without delay.
>                         
>                         
>                         
>                         and *if* it conforms with the TDF logo usage
>                         policy to put the logo on
>                                 any certificates issued to say this
>                                 certificate was issued in the
>                                 context of LO.
>                         
>                         
>                         If any use of the LibreOffice logo is allowed,
>                         then it should be in a way
>                         that it makes clear that LibreOffice is
>                         supported, and not that there is an
>                         endorsement from TDF.
>                 
>                 
>                 That really depends on a subjective judgement. Is
>                 putting a logo on a
>                 certificate claimin g endorsement or is it simply
>                 saying this certificate
>                 was achieved using that product? I can see it could be
>                 interpreted either
>                 way so before I did it I'd want specific authorisation
>                 to do it. That would
>                 apply to any software not just LO. I would not want to
>                 start awarding
>                 certificates and then find there was a problem some
>                 time later. It's easy
>                 to remove a logo from the web site, it is not so easy
>                 to revoke
>                 certificates. In fact we would also incur problems
>                 with Ofqual so that
>                 would be far too big a risk to the business overall to
>                 chance it.
>                 
>                 PS we have a partner in the Netherlands called
>                 Pro-work. We work with them
>                 on EU projects.
>                 
>                 Cheers,
>                 
>                         --
>                         - Cor
>                         - http://nl.libreoffice.org
>                         - www.librelex.org
>         
>         
> 
> 

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