On 05/25/2014 01:31 PM, Tom Davies wrote: > Hi :) Hi Tom,
> The specifically stated download sites do have a good reputation and > there are many other good 3rd-party sites and other independent ways > of getting LibreOffice too. > Yes there are many good 3rd-party sites and we should use those sites to our advantage to improve LibO's popularity to users of those sites. With many users getting automatic updates through their package manager and downloadable updates within LibO, LibO is missing out on one of the opportunities to use upgrades as a means of promoting itself. > However if stats are being skewed by some companies deliberately > creating misinformation then i am not sure how far down that road we > really want to go. In some industries such activity might be viewed > as fraud or as cheap huckster ploys. On the other hand if everyone > else is doing it then maybe we are fools to not be doing it too. > Stats are not really skewed, as users are not being directed there who dont already want to download the file, and instead of the downloads stats being tracked at the software makers site, it is being tracked at the software directory's site. This also has another benefit of reducing the bandwidth load on the various mirrors. I personally dont find this as fraud as its like promoting your website in google by SEO in order to drive more traffic to your website. Or alternatively, if LibO had a retail outlet on the street and one in a shopping mall and wanted people in the mall to take notice of its outlet by driving more people to it, maybe they would exclusively have a popular product in the mall retail outlet. :) > Any chance of directly contacting our marketing mailing list to > suggest the idea to them? It might be that you have other ideas they > might find useful or things that you can get directly involved in, or > they might even let you organise doing your idea. > I didnt quite get what you meant as i'm discussing this issue with the marketing mailing list as i'm on it. Well so far, my idea would be to link the download button at < http://www.libreoffice.org/download/libreoffice-fresh/?type=win-x86&version=4.2&lang=en-US > to < http://filehippo.com/download_libreoffice/download/500aad3c98cfb39924bfc5134c2138ae/ > for a random number of users each day, or having additional download buttons for download.com and filehippo.com on the page, stating that it can also be downloading from those sites. > > Kingsoft Office is a good option for many people when they first start > trying to move away from MS Office. It has the very similar > ribbon-bar and so it's much easier for users of the newer versions of > MS Office to adapt to. It lowers-the-bar for people migrating away > from MS Office. Once people HAVE migrated away from MS Office they > can see the many programs that DO "play well together" and make the > extra step more easily. > I do agree Kingsoft Office is a good options for many moving from MS Office as its document compatibility is almost perfect in every file i through at it. Yes there ribbon-UI will also be easy for users coming from MS Office 2007+. > Of course Kingsoft's policy of following along behind MS wrt it's > formats and UI means that they will always be at least 1 or 2 steps > behind and constantly trying to "play catch-up". That means a lot of > work in reverse-engineering the hidden changes in the formats and in > the UI and then redeveloping their own way of handling it without > being too close in case of copyright infringements. All a LOT of work > in order to ensure that they always lag behind MS!! > I dont see as that much different then how LibO is playing catchup to improve MS Office compatibility and features. > Still, for people unable to make the full step away from proprietary > license fees and issues of incompatibility with their own different > versions of their own software then Kingsoft Office is a good > stepping-stone. > Regards from > Tom :) Battling OpenOffice's popularity is an uphill battle as its has been around for 10 years more than LibO and it was the free office suite we were promoting ourselves not so long ago, which also can be seen by its download numbers on the various software sites. Regards, Jay -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: [email protected] Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
