I would love to be on board; which platform would we use for the meeting.... Google Hangouts?
On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 4:35 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > Send marketing mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of marketing digest..." > > > NOTE: When replying to digest messages, please set the subject to match > the original message. > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Proposal -- fortnightly magazine meeting (Chris Roberts) > 2. Re: Proposal -- fortnightly magazine meeting (Ryan Lerch) > 3. Re: Proposal -- fortnightly magazine meeting (Ryan Lerch) > 4. Re: Some suggestions for Marketing notes for FW 21 > (Jaroslav Reznik) > 5. Re: Some suggestions for Marketing notes for FW 21 > (Jiri Eischmann) > 6. Re: Proposal -- fortnightly magazine meeting (Joe Brockmeier) > 7. Re: Proposal -- fortnightly magazine meeting (Ryan Lerch) > 8. Re: Some suggestions for Marketing notes for FW 21 > (Jared K. Smith) > 9. Re: Some suggestions for Marketing notes for FW 21 > (Jiri Eischmann) > 10. Re: Some suggestions for Marketing notes for FW 21 (Josh Boyer) > 11. Magazine down? (Matthew Miller) > 12. Re: Magazine down? (Matthew Miller) > 13. Re: Magazine down? (Ryan Lerch) > 14. Re: Some suggestions for Marketing notes for FW 21 > (Paul W. Frields) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 09:05:48 -0400 (EDT) > From: Chris Roberts <[email protected]> > To: Fedora Marketing team <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: Proposal -- fortnightly magazine meeting > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > I would totally be up for this. I really think we can get some good ideas > going and make for better consistent content pushes. > > - Chris > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mark Lamourine" <[email protected]> > To: "Fedora Marketing team" <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 7:50:38 AM > Subject: Re: Proposal -- fortnightly magazine meeting > > I'm in as Sysadmin..... > > On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 12:07 AM, Amita Sharma < [email protected] > > wrote: > > > Great Idea, I will love to join :) > > Thanks, > Amita > On 09/11/2014 03:53 AM, Zacharias Mitzelos wrote: > > > Count me in as well Ryan ;) > > Zacharias > On 11/09/2014 01:01 πμ, Rikki Endsley wrote: > > > Sounds great, count me in. > > I'm switching from CentOS to Fedora on my work laptop this week (have > Fedora on a home laptop currently), which should make coming up with ideas > and writing articles easier. > > > Rikki Endsley | Community Evangelist > Open Source and Standards (OSAS), Red Hat > > http://community.redhat.com/ > Twitter: @redhatopen | @rikkiends > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Paul W. Frields" < [email protected] > > To: [email protected]. org > Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 4:34:49 PM > Subject: Re: Proposal -- fortnightly magazine meeting > > On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 03:58:19PM -0400, Ryan Lerch wrote: > > > Hi all, > > Just wondering what people think about a fortnightly meeting specially > dedicatied to the magazine, where we can pitch and discuss ideas for posts > on the magazine. Obviously not all articles on the mag would come from such > a meeting (ie the ones that are more "newsy" and are written when something > is announced) > I would love to participate in this meeting, since I'd like to broaden > my Magazine participation as well. > > -- > Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ > gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 > http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople. org/ > The open source story continues to grow: http://opensource.com > -- > marketing mailing list > [email protected]. org > https://admin.fedoraproject. org/mailman/listinfo/marketing > > > -- > marketing mailing list > [email protected]. org > https://admin.fedoraproject. org/mailman/listinfo/marketing > > > > -- > ---- > Mark Lamourine < [email protected] > > Dad, Hubbie, Software Developer, System Administrator, Road Cyclist > > -- > marketing mailing list > [email protected] > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 10:15:06 -0400 > From: Ryan Lerch <[email protected]> > To: Fedora Marketing team <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: Proposal -- fortnightly magazine meeting > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed > > On Thu 11 Sep 2014 09:05:48 AM EDT, Chris Roberts wrote: > > I would totally be up for this. I really think we can get some good > ideas going and make for better consistent content pushes. > > > > - Chris > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Mark Lamourine" <[email protected]> > > To: "Fedora Marketing team" <[email protected]> > > Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 7:50:38 AM > > Subject: Re: Proposal -- fortnightly magazine meeting > > > > I'm in as Sysadmin..... > > > > On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 12:07 AM, Amita Sharma < [email protected] > > wrote: > > > > > > Great Idea, I will love to join :) > > > > Thanks, > > Amita > > On 09/11/2014 03:53 AM, Zacharias Mitzelos wrote: > > > > > > Count me in as well Ryan ;) > > > > Zacharias > > On 11/09/2014 01:01 πμ, Rikki Endsley wrote: > > > > > > Sounds great, count me in. > > > > I'm switching from CentOS to Fedora on my work laptop this week (have > Fedora on a home laptop currently), which should make coming up with ideas > and writing articles easier. > > > > > > Rikki Endsley | Community Evangelist > > Open Source and Standards (OSAS), Red Hat > > > > http://community.redhat.com/ > > Twitter: @redhatopen | @rikkiends > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > From: "Paul W. Frields" < [email protected] > > > To: [email protected]. org > > Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 4:34:49 PM > > Subject: Re: Proposal -- fortnightly magazine meeting > > > > On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 03:58:19PM -0400, Ryan Lerch wrote: > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > Just wondering what people think about a fortnightly meeting specially > > dedicatied to the magazine, where we can pitch and discuss ideas for > posts > > on the magazine. Obviously not all articles on the mag would come from > such > > a meeting (ie the ones that are more "newsy" and are written when > something > > is announced) > > I would love to participate in this meeting, since I'd like to broaden > > my Magazine participation as well. > > > > Just going to throw a time out here -- what do people think of UTC 1400 > - UTC1500 as a time of day for a meeting? > We can pick any day really. > > cheers, > ryanlerch > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 10:16:48 -0400 > From: Ryan Lerch <[email protected]> > To: [email protected], Fedora Marketing team > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: Proposal -- fortnightly magazine meeting > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed" > > On 09/11/2014 12:41 AM, Ankur Sinha wrote: > > On Thu, 2014-09-11 at 09:37 +0530, Amita Sharma wrote: > >> Great Idea, I will love to join :) > > I'll turn up when I can too - probably not while I'm still down under, > > but as soon as I move some place with a more convenient time difference. > > > > > I know that feeling well! -- there are not many good times in the AU > timezone that mesh with the US workday :) > > That said, the easiest way to participate might be to write up a brief > pitch, and then one of us can pitch the idea in the meeting! > > cheers, > ryanlerch > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/marketing/attachments/20140911/ea51e4a0/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 10:45:37 -0400 (EDT) > From: Jaroslav Reznik <[email protected]> > To: Discussions about development for the Fedora desktop > <[email protected]> > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Some suggestions for Marketing notes for FW 21 > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > ----- Original Message ----- > > Hi everyone, > > Here are some draft notes I prepared to try to help our marketing team > > build up some release notes and press material on the Fedora Workstation > > release. > > Already sent it to the Working Group members, but I thought I send it > out to > > these two > > lists for further review and suggestions. > > Christian, > thanks for help - for release announcement, once the WG is ok with this > draft, > feel free to edit > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F21_Alpha_release_announcement > > I'm really happy to see this activity happening in working groups, really > working towards the best product marketing materials! Thank you very much! > > Jaroslav > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 17:40:29 +0200 > From: Jiri Eischmann <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Some suggestions for Marketing notes for FW 21 > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Jared K. Smith píše v St 10. 09. 2014 v 14:09 -0400: > > > > On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 10:50 AM, Richard Hughes <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > Eeek. Don't call it an "appstore" else the lawyers get all > > jumpy. I've > > been referring to it all the time as an "application > > installer" as I > > don't fancy fighting that fight. > > > > > > > > I have to agree here -- not so much because I don't want any sort of a > > legal trouble, but because there's no "store" to speak of. (Unless, > > of course, you use "store" to mean "storage", and not "a place to buy > > things".) Since we don't charge money for any of the applications, I > > have a hard time calling it a store. Let's call it an "application > > installer" or a "software installer", but not an application store, > > please. > > What about calling it an "app catalog"? It doesn't imply we sell apps > and the name is not currently used or claimed by anyone AFAIK (HP used > to have App Catalog for their webOS, but that's dead now). > Frankly, I don't like calling it an installer because there is a > qualitative difference between an installer and the kind of application > GNOME Software is trying to be. > What comes to my mind when I hear the word "installer" is a program that > installs whatever you ask it to install, but I think GNOME Software is > more than that. It shows in a fashionable way what the platform offers > app-wise. And it also takes care of updates btw. > > Jiri > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 11:26:53 -0500 > From: Joe Brockmeier <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Proposal -- fortnightly magazine meeting > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > On 09/11/2014 09:15 AM, Ryan Lerch wrote: > > Just going to throw a time out here -- what do people think of UTC 1400 > > - UTC1500 as a time of day for a meeting? > > We can pick any day really. > > That's 9 a.m. my time, so - kinda works. I have a lot of meetings from 8 > a.m. to 11 a.m. depending on the day of week, but I can usually keep an > eyeball on IRC if I'm at the desk. > > I'm fine with the idea of a meeting, but I'd also note - there's nothing > to stop people from pitching ideas on the mailing list 24/7. So - I > would hope that the meeting would be more brainstorming and generating > new ideas, and make sure if someone has a good idea they can run with - > they can do that without waiting for the meeting. > > Silly question - any reason not to fold this in with the other marketing > meeting? > > Best, > > jzb > > -- > Joe Brockmeier | Principal Cloud & Storage Analyst > [email protected] | http://community.redhat.com/ > Twitter: @jzb | http://dissociatedpress.net/ > > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: signature.asc > Type: application/pgp-signature > Size: 473 bytes > Desc: OpenPGP digital signature > URL: < > http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/marketing/attachments/20140911/ead81645/attachment-0001.sig > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 13:04:00 -0400 > From: Ryan Lerch <[email protected]> > To: [email protected], Fedora Marketing team > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: Proposal -- fortnightly magazine meeting > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed" > > On 09/11/2014 12:26 PM, Joe Brockmeier wrote: > > On 09/11/2014 09:15 AM, Ryan Lerch wrote: > >> Just going to throw a time out here -- what do people think of UTC 1400 > >> - UTC1500 as a time of day for a meeting? > >> We can pick any day really. > > That's 9 a.m. my time, so - kinda works. I have a lot of meetings from 8 > > a.m. to 11 a.m. depending on the day of week, but I can usually keep an > > eyeball on IRC if I'm at the desk. > > > > I'm fine with the idea of a meeting, but I'd also note - there's nothing > > to stop people from pitching ideas on the mailing list 24/7. > No nothing at all, except we rarely get pitches on the list even though > it is known that it happens this way. The idea of a standalone meeting > is to hopefully get people to collate a few thoughts, then get them to > pitch them as ideas in the brainstorm session. Maybe not the way a > "traditional" pitch works. > > regards, > ryanlerch > > > So - I > > would hope that the meeting would be more brainstorming and generating > > new ideas, and make sure if someone has a good idea they can run with - > > they can do that without waiting for the meeting. > > > > Silly question - any reason not to fold this in with the other marketing > > meeting? > > > > Best, > > > > jzb > > > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/marketing/attachments/20140911/80ed496b/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 13:39:56 -0400 > From: "Jared K. Smith" <[email protected]> > To: Fedora Marketing team <[email protected]> > Cc: fedora-desktop <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: Some suggestions for Marketing notes for FW 21 > Message-ID: > < > ca+0bqbhyfqjnwtmotzge2kwlfe17pxer6nzpyvyspz1wflo...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 11:40 AM, Jiri Eischmann <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > What about calling it an "app catalog"? > > > > I'm fine with calling it an "App Catalog" or "Application Catalog" or > "Software Center". I'm just not comfortable with "store" or "market" or > "marketplace" since we're not selling anything. > > -- > Jared Smith. > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/marketing/attachments/20140911/f46bbd5c/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 19:50:55 +0200 > From: Jiri Eischmann <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Some suggestions for Marketing notes for FW 21 > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Michael Catanzaro píše v Čt 11. 09. 2014 v 11:27 -0500: > > On Thu, 2014-09-11 at 17:40 +0200, Jiri Eischmann wrote: > > > What about calling it an "app catalog"? > > > > How about "software center?" > > That's also a good option. A little downside could be that it's used by > Ubuntu already (Ubuntu Software Center). > > Jiri > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 10 > Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 14:31:23 -0400 > From: Josh Boyer <[email protected]> > To: Discussions about development for the Fedora desktop > <[email protected]> > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Some suggestions for Marketing notes for FW 21 > Message-ID: > <CA+5PVA5W6vQYZ5= > [email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 1:50 PM, Jiri Eischmann <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Michael Catanzaro píše v Čt 11. 09. 2014 v 11:27 -0500: > >> On Thu, 2014-09-11 at 17:40 +0200, Jiri Eischmann wrote: > >> > What about calling it an "app catalog"? > >> > >> How about "software center?" > > > > That's also a good option. A little downside could be that it's used by > > Ubuntu already (Ubuntu Software Center). > > There are only so many names you can call a thing that actually > describe that thing. We shouldn't be afraid to use a generic term > just because Ubuntu uses it. > > josh > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 11 > Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 15:02:27 -0400 > From: Matthew Miller <[email protected]> > To: Fedora Marketing team <[email protected]> > Subject: Magazine down? > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > The fedora magazine front page is blank -- literally 0 bytes. If I go to > the admin URL, I get a plain old-school HTML page telling me that the > database doesn't need to be upgraded and a link to continue, which takes me > to that blank front page.... > > -- > Matthew Miller > <[email protected]> > Fedora Project Leader > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 12 > Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 15:09:23 -0400 > From: Matthew Miller <[email protected]> > To: Fedora Marketing team <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: Magazine down? > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 03:02:27PM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: > > The fedora magazine front page is blank -- literally 0 bytes. If I go to > > the admin URL, I get a plain old-school HTML page telling me that the > > database doesn't need to be upgraded and a link to continue, which takes > me > > to that blank front page.... > > Huh. Now it's fine. > > -- > Matthew Miller > <[email protected]> > Fedora Project Leader > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 13 > Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 16:05:56 -0400 > From: Ryan Lerch <[email protected]> > To: Fedora Marketing team <[email protected]> > Cc: Matthew Miller <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: Magazine down? > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed > > On Thu 11 Sep 2014 03:09:23 PM EDT, Matthew Miller wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 03:02:27PM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: > >> The fedora magazine front page is blank -- literally 0 bytes. If I go > to > >> the admin URL, I get a plain old-school HTML page telling me that the > >> database doesn't need to be upgraded and a link to continue, which > takes me > >> to that blank front page.... > > > > Huh. Now it's fine. > > > > It seems it was updated (not sure if by someone, or automatically) -- > the wp-admin page is giving me the update database thingo > > cheers, > ryanlerch > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 14 > Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 17:35:29 -0400 > From: "Paul W. Frields" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected], [email protected] > Subject: Re: Some suggestions for Marketing notes for FW 21 > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > On Tue, Sep 09, 2014 at 09:46:07AM -0400, Christian Schaller wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > Here are some draft notes I prepared to try to help our marketing team > > build up some release notes and press material on the Fedora Workstation > release. > > Already sent it to the Working Group members, but I thought I send it > out to these two > > lists for further review and suggestions. > > I took a shot at revising Christian's notes, using the feedback from > the thread thus far. With this revision I tried to reduce the level > of formality, the amount of technical terminology, and overall > sentence length and complexity. I also introduced some bullet points > where I felt it made the text more readable. I also renamed the > Software tool here to "App Catalog" because the ease of the tool does > remind me of e.g. a retail store catalog. > > Presented here for your (most welcome!) slings and arrows: > > * * * > > The Fedora Workstation is a new take on desktop development from the > Fedora Community. Our goal is to pick the best components, and > integrate and polish them. This work results in a more polished and > targeted product than you've previously seen from the Fedora > desktop. We want our desktop operating system to solve your problems, > not be your problem. > > Easy access to all your software > > The cornerstone of the Fedora Workstation is the App Catalog, which > lets you find all kinds of applications quickly and easily. The > improvements to the App Catalog in Fedora 21 provide a responsive and > fast user experience. In addition, Fedora packagers have worked with > developers around the world to greatly improve the number of featured > applications. > > Improvements to the Terminal application > > We want developers to have a great experience, so a strong Terminal > application is absolutely important. We've integrated a set of > additional features in the Terminal, such as: > > * Support for transparent backgrounds > * Automatic title updates to help you identify different terminals > * A simple toggle for system keybindings in both the Terminal and > GNOME desktop overview to help you search for Terminals by name > > Experimental Wayland Support > > Wayland is a new and exciting technology that will power Linux > desktops of the future. With Fedora Workstation 21 you can visit the > future now, and see how well your applications work with Wayland. You > can also experiment with making your applications take advantage of > Wayland's new capabilities. Much of the core Wayland development comes > from Fedora Workstation contributors, so this is your chance to try > out Wayland straight from the source. > > Developer Assistant > > We recognize developers need an easy and straightforward way to set up > many different programming environments. In Fedora Workstation, we > offer the Developer Assistant, which takes care of this setup for a > large number of language runtimes and IDEs. And now, thanks to its > integration with new Fedora Software Collections, multiple versions of > different languages are available to suit your needs. > > Ease of installation > > We want the installation of the Fedora Workstation to be as > straightforward and simple as possible. In Fedora Workstation we've > distilled this process down to selecting the layout of your physical > media, and then pressing "Install." (In fact, you can even let the > installer choose the disk layout for you.) And because the future of > installations is not optical disks, we ship with an easy to use tool > to help you create bootable USB sticks. > > Toolkit integration > > We recognize you have a job to do, and you want to use the tools that > let you get it done. That's why we've been working hard to make all > your applications in Fedora Workstation look and feel the same. From > the new theming for Qt to the ability to run HTML5 web services in a > chromeless window, we want all your apps to feel like a natural > extension to your desktop. > > Support for extremely high resolution displays (HiDPI) > > Technology never stands still, and as a software developer you're used > to using the best technology available. So we've spent a lot of time > and effort on supporting the new generation of HiDPI displays. That's > probably why Fedora has been called "the best of HiDPI." > > Exciting roadmap > > This Fedora Workstation release is not the end. It's the beginning of > a new era for Fedora on the desktop. We have a roadmap lined up to > bring a range of exciting new technologies to the Linux desktop: > > * Containers > * Smarter virtual machines > * Better development tools > * More web integration > * ...and much more > > So if you want to be part of the future of the Linux desktop be sure > to get on board now! > > * * * > > -- > Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ > gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 > http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ > The open source story continues to grow: http://opensource.com > > > ------------------------------ > > -- > marketing mailing list > [email protected] > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing > > End of marketing Digest, Vol 123, Issue 13 > ****************************************** > -- Jeremiah Ross | email: [email protected] | Voice: 1 510 333 7767 |
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