Ok i've added the updated logo to the wiki (thanks for the info Rob).

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.x+-+Logo+Explorations

Personally I would avoid too much of the 'gloss' effect, i think it's been so 
overused on the web and i prefer it a bit more matte myself. But I can make a 
version with a bit more shine if you like just to see how it compares.

Robin

On 31 Jan 2013, at 15:25, Kadal Amutham <[email protected]> wrote:

> Dear Rob,
> 
> It is a good link. Let me quote from the page
> the amount of noise generated by a change is inversely proportional to the
> complexity of the change."
> 
> 
> 
> With Warm Regards
> 
> V.Kadal Amutham
> 919444360480
> 914422396480
> 
> 
> On 31 January 2013 20:12, Rob Weir <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 8:52 AM, Robin Fowler <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>> Ok thanks for the clarification. My first question:
>>> 
>>> I had a look around for something I'd like to do and came across the
>> logo design concepts for version 4. I've made a design and was wondering if
>> I just go ahead and edit the page (on CWiki), adding my design or do i send
>> the design to someone who is responsible for editing the page? I guess I'm
>> looking for some kind of general guidelines for the CWiki..
>>> 
>> 
>> Hi Robin,
>> 
>> I see your logo designs and I am very impressed.  This is some fine
>> work.   The wiki is open for anyone to edit, once you create an
>> account.  As you see now there is a page where we have been collecting
>> AOO 4.0 logo proposals.  That is a good place to add yours.
>> 
>> One of the perils of graphical design work in a community-based
>> project like this is the tendency for what we call "bikeshedding".
>> I'd recommend you, and everyone else, read this page:
>> 
>> http://bikeshed.com/
>> 
>> It is something to be aware of.  We cannot really prevent it, but with
>> awareness we can temper it somewhat.   But it is important that you,
>> as a designer, realize the tendency toward this, in projects like
>> this.  Otherwise it is easy to feel frustrated at prolonged
>> discussions, contradictory feedback and lack of resolution.  We don't
>> want that to happen.
>> 
>> I'm not saying this is occurring now, but it is natural that if you
>> ask 10 people for their opinions on a logo, you will get 10 different
>> views.
>> 
>> Keep up the good work, and be prepared for a lot of feedback!
>> 
>> -Rob
>> 
>> 
>>> The other question is regarding the website, what is the approach to
>> working on this, is it preferable to do minor improvements or could i go
>> ahead and make an entire overhaul? Are there some guidelines for this or is
>> it completely up to the individual?
>>> 
>>> Thanks for your help!
>>> 
>>> Robin
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 29 Jan 2013, at 22:04, Rob Weir <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 4:48 PM, Robin Fowler <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> 
>>>>> my name's Robin Fowler and I'm currently based in the UK. I love doing
>> graphic design and thought this would be a good opportunity to contribute.
>> I'm mainly interested in marketing and UI design.
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Robin, Welcome to the Apache OpenOffice project!
>>>> 
>>>>> I have read through the introduction modules and have signed up on the
>> CWiki, and I have some questions but will hold back with them in case I'm
>> asking at the wrong place (perhaps someone can give me a hint).
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> This is the marketing mailing list.  So it is a great place to ask
>>>> questions.   We don't currently have a separate list for graphics or
>>>> UI.  If it is related to marketing, branding, logos, promotional
>>>> artwork, etc., then we discuss it on this list.  If we're talking
>>>> about the graphical elements of the core OpenOffice project then we
>>>> discuss it on the dev mailing lis ([email protected]).
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> 
>>>> -Rob
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Robin
>>>> 
>>> 
>> 

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