Rob, looks like you're seeing more than was intended :)
I should have made more clear that the second logo is of the Shaheed Minar*, a
monument that was built in remembrance of those who lost their lives in the
Bengali Language Movement. This has a stronger connection to the IMLD than just
a book.
So far I can't think of a decent way to combine the monument with the theme
('The Book'). Maybe someone has an idea…?
* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaheed_Minar,_Dhaka
Robin
On 10 Feb 2013, at 15:53, Rob Weir <[email protected]> wrote:
> It took me a while to see this, but your new logo is a "multistable" [1]
> image where it can look like an urban skyline, or a set of books sitting on a
> shelf, depending on how you look it.
>
> But I wonder if the casual viewer would notice this?
>
> [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubin_vase
>
> -Rob
>
> On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 2:01 PM, Robin Fowler <[email protected]> wrote:
> Here is my second concept:
>
>
>
> This would be to replace the normal logo. I'll make a slim version of this so
> we could use it as a horizontal banner instead.
>
> Regards,
> Robin
>
> On 9 Feb 2013, at 15:55, Rob Weir <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 6:05 AM, Robin Fowler <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> Just realised i sent this to the wrong address..
>>
>>
>> I like the approach here, Robin.
>>
>> I'm looking now at the homepage: http://www.openoffice.org/
>>
>> We have two primary places where it could fit:
>>
>> 1) Replacement for the logo in the upper left. Your current graphic could
>> work well there.
>>
>> 2) A horizontal logo that we can place where we currently have "Volunteers
>> wanted in all areas — Help us make 4.0 the best OpenOffice ever!"
>>
>> In either case I think the string "International Mother Language Day" should
>> be used. That might be a good argument for the horizontal approach since
>> then you would not need to have "Apache OpenOffice" as well. We'd keep the
>> original logo in the upper left, and then have the special logo in the
>> center, perhaps linked to a blog post on the subject. If we did that we'd
>> probably also want a visual hint that suggest the image is a clickable
>> button.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> -Rob
>>
>>
>> Begin forwarded message:
>>
>>> From: Robin Fowler <[email protected]>
>>> Subject: [Proposal] IMLD - AOO Logo
>>> Date: 8 February 2013 21:23:07 GMT
>>> To: Khan Md. Anwarus Salam <[email protected]>
>>>
>>> Ok here's a proposal. Any feedback is welcome and I'm happy to make changes
>>> or try other concepts. I might try another concept with the Shaheed Minar
>>> to make a stronger connection to IMLD.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Question: Would it be worth having the words "International Mother Language
>>> Day" in there? Or would the logo act as a link to more information (like
>>> it's often done on Google)?
>>>
>>> Kind Regards,
>>> Robin
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5 Feb 2013, at 12:08, Khan Md. Anwarus Salam <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello Everyone,
>>>>
>>>> Thanks a lot for your comment and supports.
>>>>
>>>> My comments follows..
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> With Best Regards,
>>>> Khan Md. Anwarus Salam
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 9:42 AM, Rob Weir <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 4:06 AM, Robin Fowler <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > I would be happy to work on a banner.
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> Hi Robin, that would be great! As you probably heard, the theme of
>>>> IMLD this year is "the book". I noticed you were making book-like
>>>> images in your logo explorations, with the birds. So this might be a
>>>> place where that idea (or another) could be elaborated on.
>>>>
>>>> Some quick notes on where we might use a special graphic for IMLD:
>>>>
>>>> 1. On the website, in the upper left, as a topical replacement for
>>>> the main logo. We did this during the recent holidays, for example:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.openoffice.org/images/AOO_logos/christmas-logo.png
>>>>
>>>> 2. Or we could do a horizontal banner, where the "volunteers wanted"
>>>> link is today on the website.
>>>>
>>>> 3. Or we could have a square graphic (or close to square) on the top
>>>> of the right column of the homepage, above the news stories.
>>>>
>>>> If you need it, the hires version of the current logo is here:
>>>> http://www.openoffice.org/images/AOO_logos/AOO-logo-hires.jpg.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> -Rob
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > Regards,
>>>> > Robin
>>>> >
>>>> > On 31 Jan 2013, at 05:23, Rob Weir <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 5:32 PM, Khan Md. Anwarus Salam
>>>> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> >>> Hello Rob,
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Thanks a lot for your quick detailed directions.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> I totally agree with your opinion that International Mother Language
>>>> >>> Day,
>>>> >>> is a very sympathetic idea and it share several goals with OpenOffice
>>>> >>> for
>>>> >>> promoting mother languages.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Thanks a lot for your suggestions. I would love to contribute to
>>>> >>> realize
>>>> >>> all of these. Here I send my questions about your suggestions.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> 1) Banner Design:
>>>> >>> For making IMLD banner for OpenOffice website is there any volunteer
>>>> >>> interested to contribute? How the tasks normally get distributed in
>>>> >>> this
>>>> >>> community?
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> We certainly have some volunteers with skills in graphic design. Do
>>>> >> you have a logo for IMLD already? Or some graphical concept that we
>>>> >> could use? You say the theme this year is "the book". That could be
>>>> >> another source of ideas.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Tasks are claimed by volunteers who are interested in doing them. So
>>>> >> once we have a list of proposed tasks we put them on a wiki and call
>>>> >> for volunteers to sign up.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> So far no Logo for IMLD yet. so the designer is free .
>>>> As I am new in this community, I need someones help to point me out the
>>>> resources or the wikis of this community.
>>>>
>>>> >>> 2) Blog Post:
>>>> >>> I can write the blog, but please let me know whether it is also
>>>> >>> possible to
>>>> >>> write the blog in different languages. For example, we can prepare a
>>>> >>> draft
>>>> >>> blog in English and other language bloggers can translate that into
>>>> >>> their
>>>> >>> own language. That would be a very nice way to pass the message.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Yes, we can do this. We did something like this in our most recent
>>>> >> blog post here:
>>>> >> https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/apache_openoffice_now_available_in
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I'd like to help with the blog post as well.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> Thanks a lot for helping in the blog. Can you please tell me how to sign
>>>> up for the bloggin account. I got error here:
>>>>
>>>> https://blogs.apache.org/foundation/getinvolved.html
>>>>
>>>> >>> 3) Speakers in IMLD event:
>>>> >>> That is a very good idea. In fact we are organizing a big IMLD event in
>>>> >>> Tokyo: http://internationalmotherlanguageday.com/uec/
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Can you please recommend any speaker in Tokyo?
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> We do have a volunteer, Hirano-san, in Japan, but he is in Iwate
>>>> >> Prefecture, not Tokyo.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>> If anyone can
>>>> >>>
>>>> I am the convener of the event. I was wondering if no one else can,
>>>> whether I should wear the hat and present openffice in the event? Any
>>>> thoughts?
>>>> >>> 3/A.Press Release: I can prepare the message of press release. But I
>>>> >>> do not
>>>> >>> know how to send it to every news media. Can you please suggest anyone
>>>> >>> who
>>>> >>> have experience on this?
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> We can distribute broadly via our blog and website, and our large
>>>> >> mailing list of users. Also, Facebook, Twitter and Google+. But we
>>>> >> do not have a subscription to a new release service. However a more
>>>> >> targeted approach might work well here, where we approach specific
>>>> >> journalists directly, ones we know cover this area,
>>>> >>
>>>> Please let me know whom to contact with the final press release?
>>>> >>> 4) Video Message:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> I am now interviewing many international students and teachers in
>>>> >>> Tokyo for
>>>> >>> our IMLD event.
>>>> >>> We will also release that in our website:
>>>> >>> www.internationalmotherlanguageday.com
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> In the video we will explain about the importance of IMLD and history
>>>> >>> etc.
>>>> >>> I think this video project can be a joint effort with OpenOffice and
>>>> >>> we can
>>>> >>> request the community to send us their video with self interview.
>>>> >>> Here I send our current IMLD Video Interview questions.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> 1. Please introduce yourself
>>>> >>> 2. Tell me something interesting in your language.
>>>> >>> Funny phrase, sayings?
>>>> >>> 3.Many Japanese hate English what about you?
>>>> >>> 4. What is your story with English? eg. History of the learning.
>>>> >>> (hated at
>>>> >>> the beginning? Started liking it?)
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> 5.What other languages you can speak?
>>>> >>> And why you learned those languages?
>>>> >>> 6. How can you preserve your language?
>>>> >>> 7. What is your dream?
>>>> >>> 8. What do you think about IMLD?
>>>> >>> 9. Happy IMLD in your language
>>>> >>> 10. What is your mother language and why you love it?
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> 11. Can you tell us the history behind IMLD in your language?Please
>>>> >>> let me
>>>> >>> know if you have any suggestions to add any more questions to make it
>>>> >>> more
>>>> >>> relevant with OpenOffice.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> IMLD is only 3 weeks away. Ideally we would have the blog post and
>>>> >> materials on the website 3 or 4 days before February 21st, to give
>>>> >> time for journalists to pickup the story. No one wants to write a
>>>> >> story about "Two days ago was International Mother Language Day".
>>>> >> They want to write "Today is..." or "Tomorrow is...". So there is
>>>> >> not a lot of time remaining.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> I agree. Is it possible to send the video making request to the OpenOffice
>>>> Community by next week? We can make an announcement by making web event
>>>> like I am doing for Japan Universities:
>>>> https://www.facebook.com/events/133253840175366/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> >>> 5) IMLD theme:
>>>> >>> The theme for International Mother Language Day 2013, promoted by
>>>> >>> UNESCO,
>>>> >>> is *"The Book"*.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> We can make some good OpenOffice slogan for using in the banner. For
>>>> >>> example:
>>>> >>> a. Love your language and use OpenOffice in your mother language.
>>>> >>> b. Any other ideas to adapt our message to that theme?
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> "The Book" certainly can give direction to a logo design.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I'd like to hear if anyone else on the mailing list has other
>>>> >> suggestions for a slogan. I can't think of a good one right now. But
>>>> >> I think the general story could be this: A language can exist purely
>>>> >> as a spoken language. This has occurred since the earliest times.
>>>> >> But a literate language, once that can be recorded and distributed and
>>>> >> past on through time, is critical part of a culture, and in the form
>>>> >> of books and documents, allow individuals and communities to project
>>>> >> their smaller voices to a broader audience. Today, in the 21st
>>>> >> century, the computer has taken over for the pen in many cases. But
>>>> >> where any pen can be used to write any language, not every computer
>>>> >> can write every language. Unless a computer is taught to support a
>>>> >> language, with fonts, with software, with spell checkers, etc., then
>>>> >> people are locked out of the means to express themselves digitally in
>>>> >> their mother tongue. Commercial software, focused on the highest
>>>> >> returns on investment, often targets the officially-sanctioned
>>>> >> languages in industrialized nations, and neglects minority, regional
>>>> >> and endangered languages, as not commercially relevant. This is where
>>>> >> open source software, and projects like Apache OpenOffice, can help.
>>>> >> Since we are a volunteer-led non-profit charity, we are not concerned
>>>> >> merely with profit. We're concerned with doing good, the social
>>>> >> return on our labors.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Regards,
>>>> >>
>>>> >> -Rob
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>> Thanks a lot and I am looking forward for your directions.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> With Best Regards,
>>>> >>> Khan Md. Anwarus Salam
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 11:29 PM, Rob Weir <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>> On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 2:42 AM, Khan Md. Anwarus Salam
>>>> >>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> >>>>> Hello,
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> This is Khan, Convener of International Mother Language Day
>>>> >>>>> Celebration. I am new in OpenOffice Community but I would like to
>>>> >>>>> take
>>>> >>>> the
>>>> >>>>> leadership for celebrating IMLD together with OpenOffice. Please let
>>>> >>>>> me
>>>> >>>>> know who can help me and how for this purpose.
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> Hello Khan,
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> Thank you for writing to us. We are the Apache OpenOffice project.
>>>> >>>> We are a volunteer-led open source project and we maintain and publish
>>>> >>>> free office suite software called Apache OpenOffice. We are part of
>>>> >>>> the Apache Software Foundation, a public charity with the mission to
>>>> >>>> publish free software for anyone to use.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> OpenOffice has existed since 2000 and over 100 million users have
>>>> >>>> installed our software. We are one of the most popular and familiar
>>>> >>>> open source products.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> We describe the "Public Service Mission" of OpenOffice on our website
>>>> >>>> here: http://openoffice.apache.org/mission.html
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> As you can see, we aim for cultural and linguistic diversity. This
>>>> >>>> includes the support of regional and minority languages that
>>>> >>>> commercial software vendors often neglect. As an all-volunteer
>>>> >>>> project we are not constrained by what is "profitable" in a commercial
>>>> >>>> sense. Our only limit is the enthusiasm of our volunteers.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> When I heard about International Mother Language Day, I thought that
>>>> >>>> this was a very sympathetic idea and that we shared several goals and
>>>> >>>> a similar outlook on the importance of promoting mother languages.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> So what could we do in OpenOffice to support IMLD? Some things that
>>>> >>>> we can do include:
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> 1) Use our project's outreach via our website and social media, to
>>>> >>>> promote IMLD. Our website receives millions of visits each week. We
>>>> >>>> could, for example, put an IMLD banner on our website during the week
>>>> >>>> of IMLD.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> 2) We could do a blog post on our blog to talk about IMLD 2013, and
>>>> >>>> the importance for open source software to offer wide support for
>>>> >>>> regional and minority languages.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> 3) Depending on location, we might be able to provide a speaker at an
>>>> >>>> IMLD event. Or we could provide quote for a press release.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> 4) We could interview an expert involved in IMLD about the event and
>>>> >>>> the intersection of these concerns and software.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> These are just some ideas, brainstorming. Perhaps you have some other
>>>> >>>> thoughts.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> Finally, one thing I noticed is that past IMLD's had a theme. It
>>>> >>>> would be good to know what the theme will be in 2013, so we can adapt
>>>> >>>> our message to that theme.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> I am looking forward to your reply.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> Regards,
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> -Rob Weir, Apache OpenOffice Project Management Committee
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>> With Best Regards,
>>>> >>>>> Khan Md. Anwarus Salam
>>>> >>>>> Convener
>>>> >>>>> International Mother Language Day Celebration in Japan
>>>> >>>>> http://www.internationalmotherlanguageday.com/
>>>> >>>>> Phone: +81-8041803667
>>>> >>>>> Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/motherlanguageday
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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