I ended up canceling, there was 1-3 viewers and it dropped to zero at one
point.  O well.

Anyways if people could review yesterday's presentation.  I'm going to
start suggesting we trim down proposals to a few we really like and see
what we can do to incorporate or improve on them.  Such as fixing scaling
issues. Etc.

On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 7:31 AM, Samer Mansour <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> If you will be joining me in 30 mins, here is the hangout url
> https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/fbe4c9c8e0544fbd3a8f434b8d598cfff9347300?authuser=0&hl=en-GB
>
> The hangout will be streamed on this youtube channel once it begins:
> http://youtu.be/VXnO0kDDSsg
>
> Samer Mansour
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 6:47 PM, Alexandro Colorado <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 12:48 PM, Samer Mansour <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Thanks John!
>> >
>> > Here is a recording of the hangout: http://youtu.be/5MfexlZSZwg
>> >
>> > Like Andrea pointed out its a different to consume in a presentation
>> > format.  So I'm glad people are watching  I was able to communicate
>> what I
>> > was thinking visually.
>> > What worked what needs maybe a little bit of change to make stronger.
>> >
>> > I have to apologize to Alex, I couldn't figure out how to use the IRC
>> > webclient, I enter #openoffice on the log in screen but no one was in
>> the
>> > room (or what I thought was the room).
>> >
>>
>>
>> That's because I never wrote #openoffice but #openoffice.org on my email.
>>
>>
>> >
>> > Also have to apologize the hangouts in events won't stream to youtube, I
>> > had to create a separate room, I couldn't update the hangout link in the
>> > event.
>> > I will post the hangout link here and on the google event in plain text
>> > tomorrow for the second event.
>> >
>> > - Samer
>> >
>> > On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 1:45 PM, John A Perazzo <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Proposals look good. Appreciate new, larger proportions for important
>> > > information. Don't understand changes to branding and logo but they
>> look
>> > > better.
>> > > On Mar 23, 2013 10:30 AM, "Samer Mansour" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Kadal were you able to join?  I think I screwed up the link when I
>> went
>> > > to
>> > > > live youtube.
>> > > > I will post the video recording, I was in the hangout all by myself,
>> > > people
>> > > > did join the youtube feed, it got up to 10 viewers at one point.
>> > > >
>> > > > I experienced a new skill in running something like this.  So its
>> not
>> > too
>> > > > bad.
>> > > > It did feel one sided, no one was there to have another opinion,
>> but I
>> > > > tried to be critical about logos what is strong was isn't.
>> > > >
>> > > > I'm going to still have the even tomorrow, I'll be going over the
>> > > material
>> > > > again.  I'm going to go fix the google event so I don't have the
>> same
>> > > > problem I had today.
>> > > >
>> > > > Andrea was watching I just got the e-mail.
>> > > >
>> > > > On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 12:31 PM, Kadal Amutham <[email protected]>
>> > > wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > I want to participate
>> > > > >
>> > > > > With Warm Regards
>> > > > >
>> > > > > V.Kadal Amutham
>> > > > > 919444360480
>> > > > > 914422396480
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > On 23 March 2013 21:42, Samer Mansour <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > Here is the link to join us via youtube:
>> > > http://youtu.be/5MfexlZSZwgIf
>> > > > > > you
>> > > > > > wish to be inside the hangout please reply with e-mail and I'll
>> add
>> > > you
>> > > > > in.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > As of right now, no one has made the meeting.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 8:55 PM, Samer Mansour <
>> [email protected]
>> > >
>> > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Thanks Alex,
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Since you took the time to provide details for a preferred
>> chat
>> > > > > solution
>> > > > > > I
>> > > > > > > will look into it tonight.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Before you pointed it out, it didn't cross my mind to use the
>> IRC
>> > > > > > channel,
>> > > > > > > I had forgotten we had one. It was not out of malice.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > I will see you at the hang out!
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Samer Mansour
>> > > > > > > On Mar 22, 2013 6:29 PM, "Alexandro Colorado" <[email protected]>
>> > > wrote:
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >> On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 3:20 PM, Samer Mansour <
>> > > [email protected]>
>> > > > > > >> wrote:
>> > > > > > >>
>> > > > > > >> > Hello Alex,
>> > > > > > >> >
>> > > > > > >> > I don't know how to use IRC as I've used it twice in my
>> life
>> > > and I
>> > > > > had
>> > > > > > >> to
>> > > > > > >> > download client software.  I'd rather just give people a
>> link
>> > > and
>> > > > > they
>> > > > > > >> know
>> > > > > > >> > how to join on their own.
>> > > > > > >> > If there was an easy IRC web client that could be sent to
>> > people
>> > > > as
>> > > > > a
>> > > > > > >> > simple link I would consider it for future meetings.
>> > > > > > >> >
>> > > > > > >>
>> > > > > > >> Here is one, just put #openoffice.org and you will see many
>> > users
>> > > > > > already
>> > > > > > >> logged in. might not be active, but at least they are already
>> > > there.
>> > > > > > >> http://webchat.freenode.net/
>> > > > > > >>
>> > > > > > >>
>> > > > > > >> >
>> > > > > > >> > Samer Mansour
>> > > > > > >> >
>> > > > > > >> > On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 3:35 PM, Rob Weir <
>> [email protected]
>> > >
>> > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > > >> >
>> > > > > > >> > > On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 1:22 PM, Samer Mansour <
>> > > > > [email protected]>
>> > > > > > >> > wrote:
>> > > > > > >> > > > I've posted the event to facebook so it makes it into
>> > > people's
>> > > > > > news
>> > > > > > >> > feeds
>> > > > > > >> > > > tonight.
>> > > > > > >> > > > Hoping to get the public chiming in the chat room
>> during
>> > the
>> > > > > live
>> > > > > > >> video
>> > > > > > >> > > and
>> > > > > > >> > > > during comments and Q&A.
>> > > > > > >> > > >
>> > > > > > >> > > > Rob can you grant me access to the AOO page on google+
>> so
>> > I
>> > > > can
>> > > > > > post
>> > > > > > >> > > there
>> > > > > > >> > > > as well?
>> > > > > > >> > >
>> > > > > > >> > > Done.
>> > > > > > >> > >
>> > > > > > >> > > -Rob
>> > > > > > >> > >
>> > > > > > >> > > >
>> > > > > > >> > > > Its kind of good to post to post the day before
>> because it
>> > > > will
>> > > > > > >> show up
>> > > > > > >> > > in
>> > > > > > >> > > > news feeds on the social platforms.  Preferably a week
>> > > before
>> > > > > and
>> > > > > > a
>> > > > > > >> day
>> > > > > > >> > > > before and even during.
>> > > > > > >> > > >
>> > > > > > >> > > > On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 11:50 AM, Samer Mansour <
>> > > > > > [email protected]
>> > > > > > >> >
>> > > > > > >> > > wrote:
>> > > > > > >> > > >
>> > > > > > >> > > >> Here is the agenda. I will post to cwiki as well and
>> > make a
>> > > > > link
>> > > > > > >> > > available
>> > > > > > >> > > >> via our social sites as well:
>> > > > > > >> > > >>
>> > > > > > >> > > >> Design Hangout Agenda
>> > > > > > >> > > >>
>> > > > > > >> > > >> Join us on in chat on day of:
>> > > > > > >> > > >> Chat Room: http://www.chatzy.com/77134543884661
>> > > > > > >> > > >> Room Password: aoodesign
>> > > > > > >> > > >>
>> > > > > > >> > > >> Join us via our Google Hangout Youtube stream:
>> > > > > > >> > > >> Link will be announced via facebook and google+ group
>> day
>> > > of.
>> > > > > > >> > > >> Visit our social pages day of the events get link.
>> > > > > > >> > > >>
>> > > > > > >> > > >> Welcome / Roll Call - 10 mins
>> > > > > > >> > > >>
>> > > > > > >> > > >> Rules - 1 min
>> > > > > > >> > > >> - Follow the agenda and stay on topic. Samer will be
>> > > > enforcing
>> > > > > > >> this.
>> > > > > > >> > > >> - Don't interrupt people speaking. Instead signal,
>> wave /
>> > > > raise
>> > > > > > >> hand.
>> > > > > > >> >  I
>> > > > > > >> > > >> will queue people in order.
>> > > > > > >> > > >> - I will interrupt if repetitive / the same point is
>> > being
>> > > > made
>> > > > > > >> > > >> (moderating to drive conclusion, its what I do).
>> > > > > > >> > > >>
>> > > > > > >> > > >> First Item - Run Through Artifacts - 10 mins
>> > > > > > >> > > >> Application and launcher -
>> > > > > > >> > > >>
>> > > > > > >> > >
>> > > > > > >> >
>> > > > > > >>
>> > > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> >
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4+-+Application+And+Launcher
>> > > > > > >> > > >> Desktop Icons -
>> > > > > > >> > > >>
>> > > > > > >> > >
>> > > > > > >> >
>> > > > > > >>
>> > > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> >
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4+-+Desktop+Icons
>> > > > > > >> > > >> Installation -
>> > > > > > >> > > >>
>> > > > > > >> > >
>> > > > > > >>
>> > > > > >
>> > > >
>> >
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4+-+Installation
>> > > > > > >> > > >> Logo -
>> > > > > > >> >
>> > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4+-+Logo
>> > > > > > >> > > >> Social Sites -
>> > > > > > >> > > >>
>> > > > > > >> > >
>> > > > > > >>
>> > > > > >
>> > > >
>> >
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4+-+Social+Sites
>> > > > > > >> > > >> Websites (big part) -
>> > > > > > >> > > >>
>> > > > > > >>
>> > > >
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4+-+Websites
>> > > > > > >> > > >>
>> > > > > > >> > > >> Questions about artifacts - 5 mins
>> > > > > > >> > > >>
>> > > > > > >> > > >> Second Item - Outline A Rough Goal - 15 mins
>> > > > > > >> > > >> - Set some goal posts and lets try not to move them
>> > during
>> > > > > > review.
>> > > > > > >> > > >> - We will tackle items later based on these and then
>> we
>> > can
>> > > > > > figure
>> > > > > > >> who
>> > > > > > >> > > can
>> > > > > > >> > > >> commit to do what.
>> > > > > > >> > > >> - Any items we can't fill will be posted to marketing
>> > page
>> > > > for
>> > > > > > >> > > work/help.
>> > > > > > >> > > >>
>> > > > > > >> > > >> Third Item - Review Logo Explorations 30-40 mins
>> > > > > > >> > > >>
>> > > > > > >> > > >>
>> > > > > > >> > >
>> > > > > > >> >
>> > > > > > >>
>> > > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> >
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.x+-+Logo+Explorations
>> > > > > > >> > > >>
>> > > > > > >> > > >>
>> > > > > > >> > >
>> > > > > > >> >
>> > > > > > >>
>> > > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> >
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4+-+Complete+Design+Proposals
>> > > > > > >> > > >> -I will moderate the group through each of the
>> designs on
>> > > > that
>> > > > > > >> page.
>> > > > > > >> > > >>
>> > > > > > >> > > >> Revisit Goals - 10 mins
>> > > > > > >> > > >> - From what we saw what works, what didn't.
>> > > > > > >> > > >> - Assignment of work if possible.
>> > > > > > >> > > >>
>> > > > > > >> > > >> Closing Comments and Q&A - Remainder of 30 mins
>> > > > > > >> > > >>
>> > > > > > >> > > >>
>> > > > > > >> > > >> On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Alexandro Colorado <
>> > > > > > [email protected]
>> > > > > > >> >
>> > > > > > >> > > wrote:
>> > > > > > >> > > >>
>> > > > > > >> > > >>> On 3/18/13, Samer Mansour <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> > > > > > >> > > >>> > Hello Marketing,
>> > > > > > >> > > >>> >
>> > > > > > >> > > >>> > I will be creating an agenda and moderating a
>> google
>> > > > hangout
>> > > > > > to
>> > > > > > >> > > discuss
>> > > > > > >> > > >>> the
>> > > > > > >> > > >>> > submissions we've received.
>> > > > > > >> > > >>> >
>> > > > > > >> > > >>> > This is open to all people registered to the
>> marketing
>> > > > > mailing
>> > > > > > >> > list.
>> > > > > > >> > > >>> Not on
>> > > > > > >> > > >>> > the mailing list?
>> > > > > > >> > > >>> >
>> > > > > > >>
>> > https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/call_for_marketing_volunteers
>> > > > > > >> > > >>> >
>> > > > > > >> > > >>> > Add these to your google calendar (even if you
>> don't
>> > use
>> > > > > > google
>> > > > > > >> > > >>> calendar):
>> > > > > > >> > > >>> > First Hangout -> http://goo.gl/PrVlF
>> > > > > > >> > > >>> > Saturday Mar 23rd: 9AM PDT, 12PM EDT, 4PM GMT,
>> 9:30PM
>> > > IST,
>> > > > > > 12AM
>> > > > > > >> SGT
>> > > > > > >> > > >>> > (Sunday)
>> > > > > > >> > > >>> >
>> > > > > > >> > > >>> > Second Hangout -> http://goo.gl/akOHH
>> > > > > > >> > > >>> > Sunday Mar 24th: 5AM PDT, 8AM EDT, 12PM GMT, 5:30PM
>> > IST,
>> > > > 8PM
>> > > > > > SGT
>> > > > > > >> > > >>>
>> > > > > > >> > > >>> I got blank events on both.
>> > > > > > >> > > >>>
>> > > > > > >> > > >>> >
>> > > > > > >> > > >>> > You can follow AOO on Google+ in order for me to
>> > invite
>> > > > you
>> > > > > at
>> > > > > > >> the
>> > > > > > >> > > event
>> > > > > > >> > > >>> > start time from the community page:
>> > > > > > >> > > >>> >
>> > > https://plus.google.com/communities/103683488250592271079
>> > > > > > >> > > >>>
>> > > > > > >> > > >>> I know G+ now support events. Would be a good idea to
>> > > > generate
>> > > > > > it.
>> > > > > > >> > > >>>
>> > > > > > >> > > >>> >
>> > > > > > >> > > >>> > The hangout will be recorded to youtube and posted
>> on
>> > > the
>> > > > > > >> mailing
>> > > > > > >> > > list
>> > > > > > >> > > >>> for
>> > > > > > >> > > >>> > archive purposes. That way its not member
>> conspiring
>> > in
>> > > > > secret
>> > > > > > >> > > >>> wahahaha. No
>> > > > > > >> > > >>> > but seriously its to have record of ideas and
>> > decisions
>> > > we
>> > > > > > make.
>> > > > > > >> > > >>> >
>> > > > > > >> > > >>> > Fair warning, I don't know how good volunteers'
>> > english
>> > > > is,
>> > > > > it
>> > > > > > >> may
>> > > > > > >> > > well
>> > > > > > >> > > >>> > turn into a thumbs up, thumbs down via video.  I
>> can't
>> > > > > assume,
>> > > > > > >> but
>> > > > > > >> > > I'm
>> > > > > > >> > > >>> > giving this a try.
>> > > > > > >> > > >>> >
>> > > > > > >> > > >>> > Samer Mansour
>> > > > > > >> > > >>> >
>> > > > > > >> > > >>>
>> > > > > > >> > > >>>
>> > > > > > >> > > >>> --
>> > > > > > >> > > >>> Alexandro Colorado
>> > > > > > >> > > >>> Apache OpenOffice Contributor
>> > > > > > >> > > >>> http://es.openoffice.org
>> > > > > > >> > > >>>
>> > > > > > >> > > >>>
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