Knut, IMO the below is *outstanding* advice that can bear publishing in even
more prominent places. ;)
Sivan, hope you make this work! I'm rooting for you!
Randy
On October 15, 2012 at 5:20 PM Yrvin Knut <[email protected]> wrote:
> * Sivan Greenberg [[email protected]] wrote:
> >
> > All I can say is that I wish I could fund myself to attend, as I do
> > believe the realm of data collection connected apps is one of the
> > most important courts we should own to reach greater ecosystem
> > adoption (i.e. Android, iOS etc..).
>
> Sivan, I'll challenge you a little, since I've met you many times
> after our first meeting at the KDE code sprint before Qt Developer
> Days in Munich 2010, two years ago. I guess you remember the "It's a
> yes" fun we had?
>
> If I recollect correctly, KDE sponsored your trip as on of the "new to
> the KDE project" together with Denish from India. KDE has the last
> years softened the edge of the code sprint travel sponsorship, making
> it more welcoming to new or potential contributors. KDE does a lot
> of freshmen tutoring from Google Summer of Code to other
> teaching or tutoring activities.
>
> The KDE travel sponsorship are possible through different companies
> sponsoring KDE. In addition Nokia sponsored community members with
> free passes for attending Qt Developer Days. That was changed in 2011,
> focusing on Qt contributors tending the Qt Contribution Day at
> Dev.Days in 2011.
>
> I remember you vividly participating on most of those events, doing
> good community work for MeeGo, at Qt conferences and KDE. It always
> seem to me that you've been able to get the travel and participation
> sponsored, which is often a challenge for most community members. The
> competition are often stiff. It's a lot of good contributors.
>
> Believe me, my pile of rejected talks are long since I started in
> 2000. Travel sponsorship was not always there, even if I was certain
> that my talk was relevant. Many times I've paid from my own pocket
> when tending conferences, sprints or when organizing community
> events. I've been using countless hours to find ways of getting
> project sponsorship. Not only for me, but to whole free
> software projects with hundreds, or maybe +1000 contributors. Believe
> me with Skolelinux / Debian Edu I've been rejected many times.
>
> I've also been able to knock out +400.000 Euro from government, private
> businesses and foundations to sponsor the different part of the Debian
> Edu project for 5 years, making it possible for hundreds for people
> getting travel sponsorship to code sprints and conferences around the
> world. I've heard many times contributors complaining that they are
> the ones who should be sponsored, even if there are no sponsorship
> left for a period. And they are not helping applying for sponsorship
> to the pile of businesses, foundations or branches of the government
> which might got grants. They continue expecting others to fix that.
>
> In that context, I'm challenging you Sivan. This because you have the
> expectation of being sponsored once again, not really handling the
> rejection as an opportunity to get acceptance next time. You should
> choose more constructive questions as:
>
> 1. What could I improve with my talk or topic, making it more
> interesting?
> 2. How can I find ways of getting me and others sponsored next time?
> 3. Is there ways of contributing which makes #1 and #2 possible?
>
> Summarizing bullet 1-3 and knowing you Sivan , It's a yes!
>
> Best regards
>
> Knut Yrvin
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