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*        <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/marketliberal/message/2535> Fair Use
is not stealing   
*        <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/marketliberal/message/2530> Either
truth matters, or it doesn't    
*        <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/marketliberal/message/2529> Re:
Message not approved  
*        <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/marketliberal/message/2523> Re:
Restoration of 2004 LP Platform ]

Outright moderator Allan Wallace writes to the Outright leadership (whom I
lack permission to address):

AW) Wikipedia is an ever-changing weather vane of public opinion. Someone
who quotes Wikipedia as a source of truth clearly does not know what truth
is.  Perhaps you are one of those nuts that believe there is no such thing
as objective reality, that reality is what YOU think it is, and that reality
changes when you change your mind.  (AW

Calm down, Allan.  The feverishness and absurdity of the above illustrates
perfectly why you should have recused yourself at the outset from the
decision of whether to censor my rebuttal of your own arguments.  It's
ironic for you to dismiss the premier Internet encyclopedia's
straightforward and undisputed definition of the Internet phenomenon known
as cross-posting, and it's downright bizarre for you to infer from my
citation of it that I might be a complete metaphysical subjectivist or
solipsist.
 
(Readers will note the additional irony that Allan's elliptical construction
"perhaps you are one of those nuts" is in fact a much more scurrilous
"personal attack" than the ones he accused, tried, and convicted me for --
namely, my detailed and unrebutted demonstrations that people had made
deliberately false statements about me.)

AW)  Fair use has nothing to do with this.  From the very beginning you knew
we had restrictions to participate in OutrightLibertarians.  Even when we
clearly restated those restrictions to you, you flaunted and ignored them.
(AW

You mean like when you ignored your own rules by letting Brian Miller post
serial personal attacks on me, including an oblique reference to my intimate
relations with my wife?  You mean like when you ignored your own rules by
letting Beau Cain quote me saying things that you said justified censoring
the message in which I said them?

AW) We continued to remind you of them, and still you ignored our reminders.
Any decent person would have stopped posting to another group until the
matter was settled, not you.  (AW

Any decent moderator would have answered my question about what you were
objecting to, but not you.  If you object to your rulings being subject to
public scrutiny, that's all one needs to know about them.

AW)  BTW, while I was there, I took a look at your group. You edited and
thereby misrepresented what I said in several cases. I edited out just 3
words that were truly offensive at the end of one sentence, one time on one
post of yours, and that after you had been warned several times for
offensive statements you made that were not edited. Yet, you acted like I
cut half of everything you ever submitted.  (AW

Nonsense.  I wrote: "(To the moderator: does it qualify me not to have my
protests against personal attacks be censored?  Anyone wondering what
happened to the 2nd sentence of my first posting this morning can read the
original here <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/marketliberal/message/2456> .)"
My comment made it perfectly clear that only one of my sentences was
censored.  It's simply scurrilous for you to claim I was suggesting that all
of my posts were being systematically censored.  Please stop making stuff up
about me.  Have you no shame, sir?

AW) The truth is that you CAN quote from any Yahoo group you want. Just
because you CAN do a thing, does not mean that it is RIGHT do that thing.
You might be able to quote from our group without the permission of the
author and remain a member of YAHOO, but you cannot do that and remain a
member of our Yahoo group.  (AW

Yet another delicious irony.  The one who is invoking his raw power to do
something unfair is YOU, in your final sentence above.  My invocation of the
Fair Use doctrine is not me simply noting what I can get away with; it's me
agreeing with a codification of what the vast majority of people (who aren't
self-serving self-dealing Outright censors) agree is fair.  (Hence the name
"fair" use.)  Again, you don't even dare to dispute whether the Fair Use
doctrine is a commendable one, just as you didn't dare above to dispute the
definition of cross-posting.  You just say "our policy is our policy", and
flex your right of association to arbitrarily exclude me.  I'll always
defend your right to do that, but that doesn't mean it isn't shameful.

AW) Using someone's words without there permission is impolite at the least
and stealing at the worst, and both are un-libertarian.  (AW

Argument by assertion.  Fair-use quoting is not stealing, and it's just
laughable to claim otherwise.  I'd be shocked if you could get a Beau Cain
or a Rich Newell to agree with that howler.  I doubt they'd even agree it's
"impolite" to fairly and accurately quote Outright comments off-list (as
opposed to cross-posting).

AW)  I have already wasted too much time trying to explain the simple fact
that you refused to abide by our restrictions and have therefore ejected
yourself from being able to contribute. (AW

Repeating something is not explaining it.  Despite my repeated begging, you
have NEVER ONCE addressed the substance of any of my defenses of any of the
comments by me that you arbitrarily labeled a "personal attack".   You
didn't even answer my request for a clarification of the conditions you
dictated by which I may return to your forum. Instead, you've simply
convicted me in your kangaroo court.

AW) You did this to yourself in part by your insistence that our guidelines
are invalid and that we accept YOUR rules for OUR group.  (AW

On the contrary, I explicitly agreed that I would no longer risk the
calamity of the first-ever reverse-cross-posting from marketliberal to the
Outright forum.  And even to this day, nothing in your official guidelines
says that OL postings may not be quoted anywhere else on the Internet.  Why
should anyone not conclude you're just making up rules because you don't
like the arguments being offered by this "straight white guy from suburbia"?

AW) You have been inconsiderate, impolite, argumentative, provocative (in a
bad way), you have gone out of your way to be as disruptive as possible,
your words discouraged any intelligent discussion that disagreed with your
point of view  (AW

When precisely did I "discourage any intelligent discussion" or "go out of
my way to be as disruptive as possible"?  Was it when I reported to your
forum about my successful rebutting on PlatCom of arguments that gay rights
aren't a top priority?  Was it when I asked your forum for feedback on gay
rights Platform language (and got none)?  Was it when I educated you about
the history of the support for the gay rights plank at the last three
NatCons?  Was it when I taught you about the Fair Use doctrine?  Was it when
I schooled you with 31 factual predicates rebutting your canard that we
reformers are trying to make the LP "the Party of slightly more Principle
than the Republican Party"?  Was it when I quoted Art 3 Sec 2 of the U.S.
Constitution to James Younce?  Was it when I busted Brian Miller for not not
knowing what 10  <http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/10/654.html> U.S.C. ยง
<http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/10/654.html> 654
<http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/10/654.html>  (DADT) actually says?  Was
it when I quoted the LRC's website to prove that Brian Miller simply LIED
when he claimed "The LRC's proposals thoroughly 'de-gay' the platform"?  Was
it when I demonstrated that Miller simply LIED when he claimed "the LRC has
not accepted any meaningful feedback or participation from Outright's
membership", by citing my earlier appeal on the OL group itself seeking
feedback?
 
What you may someday grow to realize is that if someone ends up feeling
ridiculous, it's not always because they've been ridiculed.

AW) and then you accuse us of mistreating you.  (AW

I don't just "accuse"; I document it publicly and persuasively.  Here's Tom
Knapp writing tonight on marketliberal: "I did not attempt to post that to
the Outright list. My last round of conversation on that list convinced me
that a few of Outright's leaders are hell-bent on making their own
organization look bad. Their call, but I decline to be their enabler."

AW) If you want to bully and push people around, go someplace else, we have
had enough.  (AW

Ah, I see you've gotten the latest Brian Miller memo on how to shout me
down.  On the third day we ever debated, Miller told me "Hopefully, this
spanking will prevent you from indulging in such childishness in the
future".  Scant weeks later, he was calling me a "bully".  Can you quote me
ever using such subjective and inflammatory language to personally describe
you or him?

AW) And even though you do NOT have my permission to use this on your Yahoo
group, you probably will anyway  (AW

Good guess.  You are absolutely correct that I am not going to preserve the
secrecy of the Outright star chamber.  Feel free to add that to the ex post
facto offenses in the bill of attainder you've concocted against me.

AW)  and you will probably not leave it in one piece but cut it up, leaving
out the parts that look bad for you,  (AW

We'll never know, because there weren't any such parts. :-)  I didn't omit a
single word, but I of course replied to it systematically -- which in your
bizarro world is apparently some kind of personal attack, as opposed to a
sign of intellectual courtesy and thoroughness.  HURT ME with the disrespect
of daring to actually answer this defendant's case clause by clause, Mr.
Judge, Jury, and Executioner.

AW)  and insert your own commentary to distract your readers from what I'm
saying; just as you did nearly every other time you quoted me.  (AW

If your message includes some kind of enchantment that only works when read
straight through, then feel free to post directly to marketliberal, where I
always immediately approve all your messages.  You'll find your Jedi magicks
don't work on my readers; they're a hardy lot.  :-)

AW) That is my last word. Any further communications should be with Outright
Libertarians' National Chair, Rob Power.  (AW

No comment.
 
P.S. On the very day you guys were expelling me from your forum, I succeeded
in inserting into the leading PlatCom subcommittee's draft the remaining
sentence of the Principles section of the existing Sexuality and Gender
plank, so that now that section is preserved in its entirety.  Only Rob has
been a more vocal defender of gay rights on the PlatCom than I, so
congratulations for expelling me.  You must be so proud.

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