On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 11:15 AM, Jeffrey Kegler <
[email protected]> wrote:

>  My confusion stems from not realizing that you were getting into the
> code as deeply as you are. -- jeffrey
>
No problem, I've been somewhat mystified and hardly able to explain myself
clearly. So, it's all good I think.


> On 01/14/2014 01:07 AM, Ruslan Shvedov wrote:
>
> Now I see that I took the wrong path with R2.xs, sorry.
>
>  I now see push_values is created via create_ops.pl; need to take a
> closer look, thanks and sorry for the mess.
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 10:31 AM, Jeffrey Kegler <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>>  I'm not sure I have the context here.  MARPA_OP_PUSH_VALUES is from the
>> undocumented (and unsupported) SLIF interface to my XS code.
>> MARPA_STEP_RULE and marpa_v_rule() are from the documented (and supported)
>> Libmarpa interface.
>>
>> That undocumented SLIF XS interface has the advantage of speeding up the
>> SLIF.  It has the disadvantage of making my Perl code very hard to use as a
>> template or starting point for your own.  This was a major step backward
>> from the NAIF, whose Perl-to-XS interface was the THIF, 100% documented and
>> supported.  The SLIF still relies on the 100% documented Libmarpa
>> interface, but that interface has been pushed down inside the XS code, and
>> the SLIF's Perl-to-XS interface is not documented or supported.
>>
>> Since MARPA_OP_PUSH_VALUES and MARPA_STEP_RULE are from two different
>> interfaces, one of which is not supported, I don't think you'll be able to
>> mix the two.  I am not at all sure that I am addressing your question, or
>> that I understood it, but I hope this clarifies things a bit.
>>
>> -- jeffrey
>>
>> On 01/13/2014 11:28 PM, Ruslan Shvedov wrote:
>>
>>  I think I need some good advice to make sure that I'm on the right
>> track.
>>
>>  I started from cpan\lib\Marpa\R2\Value.pm and Value-overview.html and
>> thought of adding *op_push_lhs* by analogy to *op_push_values* 
>> (MARPA_OP_PUSH_VALUES)
>> command and getting lhs via marpa_rule_lhs after marpa_v_rule at
>> MARPA_STEP_RULE.
>>
>>  Schematic as it is, is this the right way of adding an array descriptor?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 6:58 PM, Jeffrey Kegler <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>  This is in response to the comment in the IRC group, right?
>>>
>>> The bless adverb is confusing, but so is the action adverb, which is
>>> also not used for ASF's.  Of course a comment to that effect in the grammar
>>> might be sufficient to elminate that confusion.
>>>
>>> By the way, (as you may have already noticed) this code is used as one
>>> of the displays in the POD, so it has to remain suitable for that.  And (of
>>> course) that makes the current confusion in it something of an issue.
>>>
>>> Yes, your approach looks promising and I look forward to the patch.
>>>
>>> -- jeffrey
>>>
>>>   On 01/12/2014 11:55 PM, Ruslan Shvedov wrote:
>>>
>>>   lhs for G1 rules and name for L0 so that to enable
>>>
>>>   :default ::= action => [lhs, values]
>>>  lexeme default = action => [name, value]
>>>
>>>
>>>  instead of
>>>
>>>   :default ::= action => [values] bless => ::lhs
>>>     lexeme default = action => [start,length,value] bless => ::name
>>>
>>>     My use case:
>>>
>>>  In https://metacpan.org/source/JKEGL/Marpa-R2-2.078000/t/sl_timeflies.t,
>>> I had to do this
>>>
>>>  my ($tag, $contents) = ( ref $_[0], $_[0] );
>>> $tag =~ s/^PennTags:://;
>>>
>>>  to remove *bless_package* that was added only to have the lhs of G1
>>> and L0 rules in the parse value.
>>>
>>>  With lhs and name in array item descriptors, I'd be able to do just
>>>
>>>  my ($tag, $contents) = @_;
>>>
>>>
>>>  and achieve the same.
>>>
>>> Perhaps removing the need to handle bless_package option in favor of
>>> array descriptor can be more efficient.
>>>
>>>  If that's ok and possible, I'd start working on a patch.
>>>
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