Thanks I've bookmarked your code, I'll have a look at this when I have 
time. Thanks again for your support.

El jueves, 16 de marzo de 2017, 9:01:13 (UTC+1), rns escribió:
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>
>
> On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 9:42 PM, Daniel Blanch <[email protected] 
> <javascript:>> wrote:
>
>>
>> Much clearer now, thanks a lot.
>>
>> El martes, 14 de marzo de 2017, 16:29:39 (UTC+1), Jeffrey Kegler escribió:
>>>
>>> "Bless" versus actions is just a TIMTOWTDI feature.  I found bless less 
>>> useful, to the extent I considered removing it in the forthcoming R3 
>>> Marpa.  But it has its fans.
>>>
>>> If how bless works doesn't leap out at you, stick with actions -- 
>>> they're all I use.  You can learn how to use bless later -- or never.
>>>
>>> The actions can generate an AST, or do all of the semantics 
>>> immediately.  In fact you can generate an AST just using a default action:
>>>
>>> :default ::= action => [name, values]
>>>
>>
>> This, with this:
>>
>>  $Data::Dumper::Deepcopy = 1; # prints all node names
>>
>> Helped me to understand better what marpa does. 
>>  
>>
>>>
>>> This separates the parsing from the semantics, so it's easier to 
>>> visualize what's going on.  Particularly for your first Marpa project, it's 
>>> often best to start with an AST.
>>>
>>> The AST method is also quite powerful and, in terms of speed, 
>>> reasonable, so that you may wind up sticking with it as your final way of 
>>> doing things.
>>>
>>
>> what if i want to implement a visitor pattern, isn't it what bless method 
>> is for? 
>>
> IMHO, yes, or the interpreter pattern, as is semantics_package 
> <https://metacpan.org/pod/distribution/Marpa-R2/pod/Scanless/R.pod#semantics_package>
>  option 
> of the recognizer
>
> BTW, I once wrote a helper module to work with Marpa::R2 ASTs 
> <https://github.com/rns/MarpaX-AST> and had my share of infatuation with 
> visitor 
> <https://github.com/rns/MarpaX-AST/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=visitor> and 
> interpreter 
> <https://github.com/rns/MarpaX-AST/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=interpreter> 
> patterns that, unfortunately, I had not time and/or focus to release or 
> maintain. Perhaps you’ll find it interesting and/or useful.
>  
>
>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 8:08 AM, Daniel Blanch <[email protected]
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi, I keep trying to understand the semantics of marpa. Forgive me if 
>>>> my questions are too basic.
>>>>
>>>> I've read the documentation, in particular this 
>>>> http://search.cpan.org/~jkegl/Marpa-R2-3.000000/pod/Semantics.pod.
>>>>
>>>> I've noticed that instead of using actions, it uses bless. I'm not sure 
>>>> if I have understand the reason well enough. What I understand is the 
>>>> following.
>>>>
>>>> 1) Marpa's bless, creates objects initializing it with the parse result 
>>>> of the rule instance
>>>> 2) If the result of other subrules is blessed too, the parent rule will 
>>>> get a reference to the subrules blessed objects.
>>>> 3) Doing so provides a somehow 'Semantic tree' 
>>>> 4) After parsing I'll get a reference of the root node i can use to 
>>>> traverse the whole tree and get the result this way.
>>>>
>>>> I'm I right?
>>>>
>>>> So, what's the difference with actions? Is it that with actions the 
>>>> result is computed on the fly? do actions use an AST then or do the parse 
>>>> and the result in just one step.
>>>>
>>>> What's the recomended way of using marpa to translate a language, bless 
>>>> adverb or action adverb?
>>>>
>>>> Than you very much in advance.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, March 13, 2017 at 2:59:35 PM UTC+1, Daniel Blanch wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Marpers,
>>>>>
>>>>> I've been using Marpa for a while, it seems promising, but I find it 
>>>>> difficult to understand how default actions and custom actions work 
>>>>> together when trying to get a result. Where can I find a tutorial or 
>>>>> documentation to understand it? How did you learn Marpa? Documentation is 
>>>>> a 
>>>>> bit confusing.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you very much in advance.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards.
>>>>>
>>>>> Daniel.
>>>>>
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