More than once it has been asserted in this list that the living standards of the working class in the USA and the UK suffered a deep fall since the early 70's. Yet, this is not what the available statistics on real wages (that is to say, the nominal wages divided by the cost of living index, or the wages in terms of use values) seem to reflect. In the case of the USA, there is a fall of less than 10% from the 70’s to the 90’s, of which 6% corresponds to the fall from the 80's to the 90's. But the wage level in the latter equals that of the supposedly unbeaten 60’s. In the case of the UK, far from falling, along the 90’s the real wages have been 54% above the 60’s, 26% above the 70’s and 17% above the 80's (perhaps the UK rises include some extension of the working day, since the data are computed on a monthly basis, but that eventuality is far from being able to account for the magnitude of the increase). To emphasize the contrast between the evolution of real wages in the UK and in the USA against what happened in countries where the accumulation of capital takes a different specific shape, I include the data for Argentina. Here, the real industrial wages ceased to rise in the first half of the 70’s, and have fallen in the 90’s 28% from the 60’s, 26% from the average 70’s, and 20% from the 80's (and the monthly industrial registered wages certainly include an extension of the working day, and are not the ones that have suffered the greatest fall). Sources of nominal wages and CPI: (1) USA: average hourly earnings of production workers in manufacturing, BLS (2) UK: average monthly wages, IMF (3) Argentina: average monthly wages in manufacturing, INDEC Real wages data (1960/64=100): USA UK Arg. 60-64 100 100 100 65-69 107 113 118 70-74 113 135 122 75-79 117 137 90 80-84 112 137 96 85-89 110 157 99 90-95 104 166 79 95-99 104 178 77 The relative evolutions do not change in a substantial way if the real wages of employed workers are weighted by considering the rate of unemployment: USA UK Arg. 60-64 100 100 100 65-69 109 113 121 70-74 114 134 124 75-79 116 135 94 80-84 109 129 99 85-89 110 146 100 90-95 103 155 79 95-99 105 171 72 Could the data for the USA and the UK be somehow mistaken or misleading? Could it be that the supposed profound fall in the USA and UK real wages, and consequently in the living standards of the working class in these countries, did not take place (and in the latter case, that an important increase occurred)? I look forward to the comments of the members of the list that are closer than me to these national economies. Juan Inigo [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.clacso.edu.ar/~jinigo _______________________________________________ Marxism-Thaxis mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To change your options or unsubscribe go to: http://lists.wwpublish.com/mailman/listinfo/marxism-thaxis