Chris Burford; True, Malecki's spart politics have him shooting himself in the foot much of the time. But your religionist style bible quotes from Lenin make a mockery of the historical /materialist method of understanding social class struggles and tactics and goals .. Lenin wrote "Left-wing communism" (LWC) during a period of the 2nd year of the new communist international and where though Russia had staved off the internal counterrevolution, the Russian revolution was now isolated after Western soviet defeats in Germany, italy, Finland , hungary, etc, by mid 1920. The Russian bolsheviks had lost millions of soviet workers and farmers in the civil strife and the population was on very short rations-- and tempers-- famine raged, & this came out at this peroid , preceeding Kronstadt , etc. For you to quote totally out of historical context , a Lenin book on the 1920 tactics when the class battles were red hot and wins were fleeting whlist huge defeats for workers via white guard reaction in Europe began to pile up -- reduces your 'argument' against Malecki's partial exposure of the true nature of the UN to absurdity. Why not use the more honest actual look at the track record of looking at how the big UN governing powers bully and bribe their proxies in the peripheral countries and then veto all that displeases them in the UN . The UN has been used by the capitalists in many countries to confuse and deceive and defeat workers in many lands, setting them up for huge slaughters. I am not saying we promote attacks on doctors from the WHO or assaults on FAO scientists but we cannot avoid the class institutional analysis of the UN and seriously discuss workers tactics and goals. Also might not Lenin have changed his tactical views possibly ahd he lived 5 years to 10 years longer? Especially since much of LWC was a RETREAT from Lenin's own "ultra-left' views of 1914-19. Dialectics is understanding the world and acting on this all as conscious matter--IN MOTION and CONSTANT CHANGE, IN FLUX ! The fact that this silly argument over having NATO or UN bombing support would go on in 'left/radical" debate circles shows how exposure of the capitalists use of their UN 'den of imperialist thieves" needs to be spread wider and farther! It can be a dividing line between internationalist marxist groups and imperialist-pacifist outfits. Chris B, allow me then if you can also the freedom to use an analogy admittedly a bit away from total accuarcy . Lenin, we could have pointed out -- also warned against 'faith' in the bosses "League of nations" a 'den of thieves" , "a robbers league " of parasites, etc .So Then what would he say of the UN , of which the "Robbers League" was but a forrunner ? To ask the question is almost to answer it. Russia was hostile to the League under the Revoultionary bolsheviks, internationalists . The Russian class collaborationist and nationalist Stalin led victorious (over workers) state cap ruling class joined in with the League in 1933. neil http://www.ibrp.org --- from list [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---
