Hugh: All this means that the "global" approach to revolution, which claims that
there are no just national struggles any more, it's all class struggle and
nothing else (eg among Trots, the Sparts and the CWI-Militant) which
renders such positions on Ireland, say, completely useless, fails to see
the dialectic of combined national/popular struggle for democratic rights
and workers struggle for a socialist state. The Bolshevik mass slogans for
October were Bread, Peace, Land -- giving leadership in the mass popular
struggle. This combined with the socialist slogan of power -- All Power to
the Soviets -- brought sufficient force to bear on the Tsarist
reactionaries, the bourgeois counter-revolutionaries and their
petty-bourgeois and labour-aristocrats running dogs that a workers state
was set up and was able to survive the most murderous counter-revolutionary
invasions and internal chaos.

George: "Its all class struggle and nothing else". You appear to misunderstand my
conception of class struggle Hugh. I rightly said the nation is an ideological notion
designed to control and regulate the masses. However I never said that there are no
individual capitalist states. There are obviously a manifold of capitalist states in
existence. Consequently this fact has certain strategic implications for the working 
class
in its struggle to challenge capitalism.

Warm regards
George Pennefather

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