I'm glad. Guess my irony meter needs a check up. BTW, on "ites" and
"ists" I met
an old Wobbly once (there is a statue of Bill near the town clock in Santa
Cruz, Ca.) (he was up in his 80's when I met him, some 15 yrs. ago) who
after his IWW years, had become a stone cold Stalinist in the CPUSA. My
comrade and I, in NAM, he called Trotskyites, after we needled him at the
bar over the Purges.
Remember him saying, "The only problem with Stalin, is he didn't kill
enough of you Trotskyites!"
Michael Pugliese
P.S. Ever read, "The Trotskyite Fifth Column In The Labor Movement, " by
George Morris or the book by fellow travelers, Michael Sayers and Albert E.
Kahn "The Great Conspiracy: The Secret War Against Soviet Russia, " or,
"Trotskyism:Counter-Revolution In Disguise, " by M. J. Olgin. ??? The
edition I have of the Sayers and Kahn, is a reprint by Proletarian
Publishers, a publisher of classic Stalinist literature, including The mid
thirties History of the CPSU(B), that published in the 70's out of San
Francisco. What anti-revisionist group they were the party publishers for I
should find out.
Michael Pugliese
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From: Gerald Levy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: M-TH: Re: VISA and new Maoite communist movement family tree
> Michael P wrote:
>
> > Hope your making an ironic comment, Gerald. And is your suffix,
"ite,
> > "instead of , "ist, " an unconscious echo of the stalinist usage of
> > trotskyite, rather than trotskyist?
>
> Yes, I was being sarcastic by suggesting some ironies in Odell's message.
> You might not recall, but Odell said that they were willing to post on the
> Web a "Trotskyite" family tree if one could be made available. I was
> simply suggesting a double-standard: i.e. the "Maoists" call themselves
> "ists" whereas they (accepting the standard Stalinist usage) call
> "Trotskyists" by the derogatory name of "Trotskyite". They never seem to
> "get" this point _until_ someone calls them a "Maoite" and/or a
> "Stalinite".
>
> Jerry
>
>
>
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