>>The state caps have been throwing around
a lot of "Stalinists" stuff lately, but I must admit that the letter by the
ISO is really interesting. The only thing appearing to be lacking in the
letter is the call by members to turn in anyone who is a suspect.. In fact it
appears that they treat their memberrship as a herd of cattle rather then and
organization of professional communists capable of thinking for
Not all adhereants of the State Capitalist thesis
are cliffites tha knowest!
>>Gonna be real interesting to watch and
organization built on capituation to cold war anti communism with its line of
state capitalism trying to find a new line as inter imperialist rivalry
I think they are much more affected by the end of
their capacity to acts as paracites on teh Labour party, which haas availed
itself of the post-col-war era to shift itself to the right, etc.
>>Well that something else which for years
previously was and adaption to their *own* bourgeoisie against the deformed
and degenerated workewrs states is now becoming a conflict for them of which
way to go.
Such adaption, I should think, was more a
reflection of their shift-in-the-winds reformism, rather than any reflection
of the State Cpaitalist thesis, which does not necessitate taking sides in
imperialist rivalries - and, incidently, by teh state cap. thesis, any bugger
siding with the USSR was just siding with another bourgeoisie, anyhow, so I
think someone round here has a severe case of pots and kettles...
>>Cliffism and the state capitalist theory
is dead along with its Social Democratic counter parts. In fact the
destruction of the SU which was the starting point of the state capitalist
break with revoluitionary marxism in the last world war will now at best be
national organizations becoming the leftwing social patriots of their *own*
countries and the real fight probably won't even be between let's say the
American ISO and the British SWP. It will be with there German/Japanese
sections most likely..
Now, this I resent - there is nothing implcit in
the state capitalist thesis which necessitates supporting one bourgeoisie over
another. Try being concise in your venoem, it makes for more
entertainment my dear.
Yours for Socialism,
Bill Martin (SPGB).