LO Again,
>>This wasn't just Lenin's assumption. It was Marx's and Engels's
too. The same way as the bourgeoisie was inherently revolutionary in relation
to feudalism. The historical role of the bourgeoisie was to emancipate itself
from the chains of feudal property relations. Which it did.
That did not mean that the bourgeoisie were
inherently revolutionary, it meant that their material basis had the objective
potential for creating a capitalist revolution, and that the progress of
history would place them in the position of having to enact that revolution -
that is different by far from the idea that the working class would
automatically have their revolution if freed from the ideology of the
capitalist class - a working class revolution requires the conscious awareness
and determination of the working class, not their unconcious and inherent
activity in the world.
>>The rapist comparison is stupid.
"You know what she *really* wants, don't
you?" "She was asking for it..>" "All women want it really", "It is
the objective historical function of women to fuck."
the last highlighting the actuality of the
philosophy - whilst the inherent historical tendancy of human beings is
towards fucking, it does require their conscious subjective engagemnent of the
human being.
>>If any social force can be compared to a rapist today it's the
imperialist bourgeoisie. The violence of the working class should be aimed at
dispossessing this bourgeoisie, ie at stopping its depradations. This is pure
self-defence and what the feminist movement (or the more militant wings of it)
have been advocating for women for a long time. The role of the working class
is that of women in general compared to militant feminists in this particular
comparison. And who would argue against the mass of women being empowered to
defend themselves against the gender enemy?
Indeed, but that is different from some jumped up
vanguard running along, putting guns to our heads and saying they're in
charge.
>>It's enough to speak of Lenin's vanguardism. Elitism has nothing
to do with it.
Well, élite and superiority is inherent in the vanguard concept.
Bill MArtin (S.P.G.B)